Widespread adoption of artificial intelligence has been accompanied by new ways to harass women online

  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social
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    24 hours ago

    So this is here to stay and there’s absolutely no way to stop it from happening. There’s absolutely no way to trace this back to it’s source every time. There’s absolutely no way to prevent anybody from taking a photo from absolutely anywhere as source material to then manipulate it. You won’t fix this by banning AI or whatever term is used for whatever enables this as you can’t stop someone from running software.

    It’s not even a new thing, it’s just becoming easier and more accessible and more lifelike. The nature of technology means it will eventually be perfected and widespread. Hollywood has already been using body doubles and computer graphics to allow actresses to not show their actual nude bodies in nude scenes for years.

    What you can do without destroying all anonymity and privacy for everyone is find who uploaded or shared something with the goal of harassing someone. This is the means allowing for a detection mechanism to then remediation of said harassment. That’s the real crime right, harassment? Shouldn’t there already be laws and enforcement for harassment?

    The root of this problem is simple. The desire to have sex with people, to see them naked, and to otherwise get off is not something that will ever go away for humanity, because it’s ingrained in our nature to procreate. You can’t fix this by brainwashing/training/whatever bullshit psychological solution that is often peddled as a silver bullet for invented problems either.

    You can however change the law in your country so that standing menacingly behind a woman is considered harassment and punish them accordingly. If this was done by one or a group of guys in Boston and there were others around, odds are they would experience a lot of pain.

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      20 hours ago

      In India?

      That seems like not such a good choice depending on where you live.

      Edit: I know it’s a joke, but seriously it seems like every time I hear about Uttar Pradesh it’s… bad.

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    Why is this any scarier than pasting a photo of their head on a clipping from a porn magazine?

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      24 hours ago

      This one animated, looks real enough, and can made to do whatever the person want.

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        I doubt it.

        Someone should do side-by-side AI slop fake nudes compared to the real thing. I bet they get it wrong as much as they do everything else, i.e. constantly.

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          20 hours ago

          This just sounds like your solution is for women to show real nude pictures of themselves so others can differentiate between their real nude body and AI fakes… wtf.

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            I’m certainly not saying that the people under attack should be obligated to prove it in any way.

            Just curious if the AI is in any way accurate or if it ends up just being generic naked bodies with a recognizable face. I’m guessing it’s the latter.

        • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today
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          23 hours ago

          That might have been true in 2022. Now? No. The average person cannot tell the difference between real images and well done generative AI.

          • Hawke@lemmy.world
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            23 hours ago

            You don’t need to tell that it’s real vs AI. If the objective is to create a picture of the person naked all you do is go “yeah that’s not what I like like naked” and move on.

            There is no way other than random chance that the AI would know about a random scar, mole, or a million other details it will get wrong. And I expect that it will have that plasticky airbrushed look, but AI is getting better about that so maybe not.

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              It’s still going to get passed around by people who don’t know that’s not what you look like naked.

              There’s literally discord servers for sharing nudes of women people don’t like. It’s disgusting.

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                It’s disgusting yes but I don’t see it as any different than the magazine-style clipping cut-and-paste. More expensive and worse for the environment I suppose,…

                But none of the people involved in creating it care if it’s real, just as before, and the realism isn’t even the point. So it’s functionally identical.

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                  The magazine style shit is obvious fake. The AI stuff is much easier to pass off as truly being the person that the face belongs to. To do that level of realism used to require a lot of work and even then it was just photos, now you can do videos.

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            23 hours ago

            Could be.

            I don’t doubt that they do really look like naked people, but i doubt they actually look like the person they are supposed to portray.

            In which case… back to square one, you’re putting someone’s head on the body of a different naked person.