• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    But is focus the end goal? Im of belief that smartphones and computers in general in inseparable part of our contemporary existence and instead of prohibition some alternative methods would be much more effective like special software restrictions etc.

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      8 hours ago

      Focus is the end goal in the classroom, otherwise why bother going? They are not prohibited from using smartphones in their life, only in class.

      Honestly what ‘software restrictions’? You were a kid, I was too, most of us were. What’s the first thing you do when you’re told you can’t do something? You find a way around it.

      what did you learn in school today little Timmy?

      i learned to drop tables tunnel into a VPN so I could watch Reels in class

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        7 hours ago

        The article clearly says this is ban is beyond just classes.

        There’s much more to schools than just focus in classes.

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          There’s much more to schools than just focus in classes.

          Like in person socialization and relationship building?

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              3 hours ago

              When everyone is looking at their phones, they aren’t engaging with each other.

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          7 hours ago

          The article does not say that.

          This article states That

          National guidelines, introduced in January 2024, recommend banning smartphones from classrooms

          There is a quote that seems to reference students not having their phones between classes, though it is not said whether they are prohibited or do not have access to them.

          in the breaks between the lessons, students would be on their phones and now they’re forced to talk …

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      Yeah because we all know how restricting people’s access works…it doesn’t

      Remove the distraction, you’re there to learn.

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        7 hours ago

        But we know for a fact that prohibition is a weak tool that almost never works. So whats your point?

        Your argument premise is flawed as phone is beyond “just a distraction”. Why not remove all other students and chairs and windows - they’re all distractions!

        I’m not sure why I even bother commenting here on lemmy when people are so small minded and can’t contribute to discussions without taking the most reductionist view. We’re not deciding policy here but just discussion what should be an interesting and engaging topic.

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          You can’t compare prohibition in a broad context to restrictive usage.

          You can’t drive a vehicle in the sidewalk either, doesn’t mean you’re forbidden to have a car.

          Have your phone - download TikTok, Canva, Wikipedia, WhatsApp, go nuts… Outside of a classroom.

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      Excessive device use has been demonstrated to be highly detrimental to adults. The recommendation is no more than one hour a day.

      In a world where no one listens to that advice and actively acts against it, children can only benefit from 8 hours a day where they are not allowed access and must instead be social humans for a while.