Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’
Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.
Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”
The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.
Thank God we saved Palestine from Biden, right protest voters?
Right?Oh boy you rustled some jimmies. Idk that I’ve seen a single comment where every response was down voted for being shitty takes.
I’m sure all of those third party and non voters are jerking off all over themselves for saving Palestine and ending the genocide through Donald Trump.
Hey, at least they’ve got their pedestals to look down on us from.
The original comment is a shitty take. Biden was sending billions in weapons to israel to carry out its mission of genocide. He continued doing this even though people were begging him to stop during an election when he needed their votes. Harris continued his rhetoric. You and Chainweasel think that somehow Biden/Harris would have changed course after they didn’t need the votes. Now you’re talking about people jerking all over themselves while you and Chainweasel admonish voters for not picking the correct genocide-enabler-in-chief. Hope you have good balance on that pedestal of yours because it’s really high up.
You got worse than what you were protesting. Good job. Huge success!
Congrats to the democrats for prioritizing genocide over beating trump, I guess.
the fact I made this months ago and people like you are still proving it relevant is hilarious, though I suppose the second panel should be “third party/not at all/for trump” in this context
“but one of them will explicitly make it worse”
Biden was making it worse for over a fucking year. Your comic is not clever or informative or even truthful, sorry. I voted for Harris, but I cannot control how others vote. If democrats want votes, they should actually try to get them. Democrats running on “other guy will make it worstester!!!” while still making things worse themselves is a losing strategy and yet here you are defending it. That’s truly a stick-in-spokes maneuver.
Worse than Trump? No.
the contentious point has never been that democrats should have run a better campaign. on that we all agree. the relevant issue has always been that not voting democrat would result in a worse outcome.
surprise surprise. it did.
Ok, so assume all things equal, everything happens the same in Gaza… Trump is still significantly worse in every other facet. So yea, all third party voters and non voters are fucking moronic Trump supporters. A bunch of ignorant fuckwits that think that they made a difference by standing up against the establishment. Congrats, we got Trump.
There’s only so many ways to say that there were two outcomes last November, and everyone knew that. If y’all can’t wrap your head around that reality 6 months later, then that says everything about your ability to reason.
The most basic job responsibility of a politician is to get elected. Democrats’ only platform is “at least we’re not as bad as the other guys” but the other guys only get worse and worse while democrats follow along, making sure to be just different enough to make people think they have a choice, but not different enough to change the course of our country and its servitude to the ultra-rich.
You’re arguing with people on here who most likely voted for Harris. I know I did. However, who I vote for doesn’t matter when democrats are so bad at looking appealing and fighting for a winning chance that my vote is drowned out by others not paying attention or who are gerrymandered away (or otherwise suppressed).
Doesn’t matter what the Democrats platform was.
If they were concerned about Gaza and didn’t vote Harris, then they didn’t care about Gaza. Because of them Trump got elected like everyone told them, and made the situation in Gaza worse.
If democrats were concerned about stopping trump and ignored voters, then they didn’t care about stopping trump. Because of them trump got elected like everyone told them, and made the situation in Gaza worse.
1 million upvotes for you. “Hope you’re happy Trump got elected. Palestine is doing great now” etc. is such a tired cliche at this point. I’m astonished that it gets upvoted every. single. time. Harris literally said she wouldn’t do anything different from Biden. She would have allowed/financed the genocide all the same, but she’d be calling the “tragic loss of life” a “very complex issue.” I have no idea where this fantasy comes from that she would suddenly be the hero who stands up to Israel.
She would have been better for the world as a whole than Trump. If you truely think that things would have played out exactly the same in Gaza with Harris as POTUS, then it still comes down to two candidates last November, and every person knew that one of them would win. So a vote for Trump, a non vote, or a third party vote directly benefited Trump.
“Oh but I voted against genocide”, fuck no you didn’t. You voted in a manner that directly put Trump in charge, which was the worst possible outcome.
To be clear, I voted for Harris, and I implored everyone I know to vote for Harris, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I will always vote for the farthest-left candidate in the general, full-stop. I’m not arguing that both sides are the same, or that Harris wouldn’t have been a better choice for 100 reasons outside of the genocide issue. I’m arguing that Harris gave no indication that she would defend Palestine or even recognize the genocide at all. She might well have done those things, but she didn’t campaign on that, so I don’t know why anyone is defending her on the issue. Establishment Dems can’t seem to get it through their heads that progressive policies are popular, so we keep getting general elections between an absolute monster and a neolib Dem saying, “Vote for me or you’ll get the monster!” That might be the reality, but it’s not a platform.
I live in a blue state, and I had people around me arguing that whether they voted third-party or didn’t vote at all, they would be able to sleep at night knowing that A. they didn’t vote for genocide and B. the state would go blue anyway. I don’t agree with that position at all. I want third parties to be represented in the US, but that starts at the local level and in the primaries. By the general election it’s too late and we realistically have two options. I also believe that shutting down any criticism of the Dem candidate (e.g. a now-banned user told me to kill myself) is a good way to alienate people and discourage them from engaging with the process at all. The right has banned nuance from their discourse, and I refuse to allow the same thing to happen around me.
Get over yourself mate. We haven’t memory holed genocide Joe.
To the downvoters. Biden supplied the weapons, the political cover and the witchunt against domestic dissent. These policies were all continued by Trump.
Matthew Miller and Blinken shed lots of crocodile tears but continued to support Netanyahu for 18 months. There was no serious effort at stopping the genocide under the Democrats
Great, now you got the genocide still going AND a fascist takeover of your country, with even less possibility to change anything and plenty of distractions to the Palestinians cause because your country is falling apart around you.
Genocide Joe walked so Fascist Donald could run.
Fascism didn’t start in January. It’s been a steady, forty-year march aided and abetted by every president since Carter.
I generally agree with your premise up until the point where you argue for accelerating the rise of fascism.
NOTHING has been gained by this, NOTHING changed for the better, it only got harder to bring about change. The people who could’ve mobilized and fought for those causes are now busy trying to stop the gestapo from deporting their neighbors.
argue for accelerating the rise of fascism.
Either you’re putting up a straw man or you didn’t read what I wrote correctly.
He correctly understood the context in which you wrote it, which was defending fascist-accelerationist non-voters and third-party voters.
Okay, Jan.
I won’t even bother entertaining you or them, but just for funsies, go look up who gave Tom Homan his first federal appointment.
You’re welcome to your incorrect interpretation, and I hope you have a pleasant evening.
As a lib I am deeply ashamed that we have missed a historic opportunity of electing a black woman to unquestioningly, unequivocally and fully support the destruction of Palestine all the while lying about “working round the clock to stop the Israel-Hamas war”.
Well, you got a orange man who wants to accelerate the destruction, ethnically cleanse the population and build a hotel on the ashes. At least he’s too dumb to lie about it. Yay?
I don’t see an acceleration. Israel is trying to kill the most number of palestinians while the united snake send billions to israel
united snake
That’s an insult to actual snakes
The snake was always have negative symbolism . Symbolically it fit the usa and the term united snake sound good to the ear
For one, look at the article headline.
For one stop, believing the USA without thinking before
The USA been voted no to UN resolutions to recognize a Palestinian independent state since 1974.
I prefer an honest scum who say we oppose a two state solution or any other type of solution than a hypocrite scum who claim to want one
Enjoy trump then 🤷
I’m not from the usa. Go join riots against trump instead of defending all the other presidents who support israel unconditionally just like him
The zionists won. It doesn’t need reminding.
A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out. I don’t get this sentiment to keep stomping.
There are those of us who will never see the protest (non-)voters as allies again due to their willingness to ignore the basic math of the election and enable fascists to win to “prove a point”. They are a step away from collaborators and hold part of the responsibility for every person who has been kidnapped by ICE, the end of a possibility of a free Palestine, every murdered protestor, every trans youth who commits suicide because they are denied care, every child that dies from measles.
Performative bullshit driven by the desire to feel moral superiority while helping get a fascist elected and undoing a century of civil and societal progress doesn’t make one an ally. It makes them useful idiots to the far-right and betrayers of people in vulnerable populations, everyone whose life is ruined by global warming.
I might forgive this who take responsibility and try to lend a hand in the multi-generation effort to try repairing the damage that has been in under 200 days (protest voters have fucked over GenX through Alpha, at the very least). But, as long as I live, I’ll not forget, nor will I allow them or anyone else to do so, lest someone make the mistake of thinking that they would stand up for anyone in any effective manner capable of positive change.
You are paying the price of voting for the same two parties for centuries. As for gaza regardless who is in power in the usa it makes zero difference
Israel is done. It’ll take a few years more, but Trump abandoned Israel and the world is turning its back. Palestine will be free, and only then you also will be free.
Until then, you’ll keep bouncing back between openly fascist and polite fascist like the good little wage slave that you are.
This was Biden’s genocide, you can never take that away from him.
Biden did not order the attacks, stop spreading bullshit. This is solely on Israel.
The genocide would have been impossible without Biden.
Not without Netanyahu.
Absolutely false. Israel has been stockpiling weapons since the 40s and, depending on who you ask, is between the 8th and 10th largest weapons dealer in the world.
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/03/13/us-top-weapons-exports-china-russia/
They do not need our help buying sniper bullets to kill kids.
They’re willing and able to misuse the weapons we send them, they don’t NEED to use the weapons we send them.
Proof: They started killing Palestinians on 10/7/2023 before we approved a single dime of aid much less sent any.
https://www.ajc.org/news/what-every-american-should-know-about-us-aid-to-israel
Emergency Aid and Wartime Procurement:
In September 2024, the U.S. secured an $8.7 billion aid package for Israel, including $3.5 billion for wartime procurement and $5.2 billion for air defense systems like Iron Dome and David’s Sling.
In April 2024, Congress approved $14.3 billion in emergency military assistance and $9.2 billion for humanitarian aid, including support for Gazan civilians.
Paused Heavy Munitions Transfer: In May 2024, the Biden administration paused certain heavy munitions shipments pending Israel’s plans for operations in Rafah, where humanitarian concerns for displaced Palestinians were raised. This move reflected efforts to balance support for Israel with attention to humanitarian laws. The munitions transfer were later approved.
Okay cool so you are saying Biden sent weapons to Israel despite Israel not needing them.
It is funny how Israel disagrees with you.
Israeli Air Force Official: Without U.S. Aid, Israel Couldn’t Fight Gaza Beyond a Few Months
Biden sent weapons to Israel to defend against potential attacks from Iran, as is their right.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-us-prepared-israel-defend-iranian-attack/story?id=114393069
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rljzepw5yo
Israel then misappropriated the weapons for use in Gaza.
Iran don’t want to attack the united statr. Thr united state does
Why do they recieves billions if they do not need it. Israel economy would have crumbled if they didn’t recieve as much aid
Because politicians need campaign contributions and unless they support Israel, that money not only dries up, but actively gets used against them.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections
You basically admit that israel need american politicians to send thrm money and protect them diplomatically for any consequences. It’s a win win for israel and the politicians.
Think a bit before talking. If i give an arm to someone knowing exactly that he will kill domeone then i am complicit with thr crime of murder. Same with biden and trump
Problem: That’s not why Biden armed Israel.
Biden armed Israel under the belief that they would use the weapons for legitimate defense, specifically against Iran. That’s a naive assumption, but it was done in good faith.
Netanyahu then illegally used the weapons offensively. Apparently nobody has the balls to call him out on it.
Again iran do not want to attack the usa. The usa is the one who want to . The united state been the biggest agressor and bully at least for 50 years.
Your country has no ligitimate defence
We aren’t talking about Iran wanting to attack the US, they want to (and repeatedly have) attacked Israel, which is why Biden was supporting Israel.
Ok sorry for misreading you.
Why biden should protect a state occupying palestinian for 57 years? Why do you agree with biden being complicit?
Biden support israel for the usa imperialism and ideology
This is a pathetic take.
You such a cultist.
Biden is past episode. CUVFEC is the main problem.
it was over the moment trump moved the embassy to jeruselum. oh and they never even planned to give palestine thier rightful state.
There was never a chance
Decades of broken promises and bad-faith negotiations prove that the U.S. has never had a “peace process” for the Mideast. Our process has always been, "Israel always gets whatever it wants and fark everything else. "
Idk, doesn’t really fit with the timeline. Why commit a slow af 77 year genocide when you’ve got the backing of UN Veto power and their world’s most powerful military? I think the Biden admin really did pursue peaceful coexistence, they just sucked ass at it and Netanyahu wanted Trump to win so he dragged the conflict out.
Fact, Biden went on stand to say he is a Zionist. Fact, He did nothing to secure co-existince Fact, Based on UN veto records nothing changes through out the history of the United States when it comes to Palestinians rights.
Let’s not get Biden foreign policy any credit that never been there because you like the guy.
I want there to be a distinction in the minds of voters as much as there is in reality between not doing enough and what the Trump admin is doing.
We were always going to keep our strongest ally in this proxy war, but we did not promote killing or removing every palistinian. The latter IS what the Trump admin is pushing for.
You seem not to be following the news. For someone who was reading news daily of how many killed, every time Blinken visit Israel next day at least 50 to 100 killed.
Reality is the US was promoting killing and removing every Palestinian. They literally asked Egypt and Jordan to take them. It was not “not doing enough” vs " outright support" it is “laying about support” vs “not laying about support”
The same happening with countries that says “we stop arm shipment” yet they are sending directly previous deals and re-routing new deals…
Again if you like Biden domestic policy and prefer to be lied to when it comes to foreign policy it is okay. But lets not pretend that one is better.
The news talked about the administration withholding large bombs bought and paid for while still pushing through small armaments without congressional approval. The news talked about Biden swearing at Netanyahu over the phone. The news quoted Netanyahu’s favorable opinion of Trump.
The news later talked about Trump delivering those large bombs. The news talked about Tanks on the ground in West Bank for the first time in decades.
Trump’s Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth openly admits that death or mass exodus is the plan now when it wasn’t before.
Because the US was first in a systemic competition against the USSR and China and after that still relied on the region for oil until recently.
Biden however stated in the 80s already, that if there wasnt an Israel he would have the US create one. He was always a racist imperialist
Biden said a lot of shit when he was half his age.
And he doubled down on it as his age doubled.
Why treat people with dignity when you can genocide them and grab all that real estate?
I vote this as the default slogan for all Western Civ history classes
Yes and Eastern civilizations would do it too if they had the power. This is a human problem, not just a western problem.
Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what’s on the news today, so what I’m talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you’re talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if…
So your argument is that it isn’t a human thing and easterners are superior to westerners? Would that be a race thing?
No, making a parallel doesn’t mean that’s the only reality.
Can you expand your “Maybe” answer to my assertion that this is a human problem not just a western problem?
If it isn’t a human problem, what is it?
Relax Jesus Christ, I made a parallel, you took it as absolute truth and challenged that it should apply to all humanity. That wasn’t my point, it’s yours, so I’m not trying to make it for you. Thanks
Americans: “We are still trash.”
World: “We know.”
I mean as disgusting as this is he is really just saying the quiet part loud. There was never any plan to give the Palestinians a state. Oslo was a con to legitimise land confiscation and to neutralise the Palestinian resistance of the time (the PLO).
The US did literally nothing while the Zionists flooded the West Bank with settlements over the last 30 years but kept up the “2 state solution” as a rhetorical shield.
