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Cake day: October 13th, 2024

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  • No, they are free to do that. thats literally not what I’m building or anything I’ll personally care about.

    You said i’ll be selling the vps. which i wont be. and I don’t care personally about the VPS’ or seed boxes at all. They are not required and have no impact on what I’m building. the cost savings I mentioned elsewhere for them are just a side effect of good design.

    edit: to clarify: I’d love to see them do it because that means people like the system i’m building.
    edit2: I know its hard to admit you might be wrong. Dont worry! this is the internet. people are wrong all the time.


  • in no way am i selling a vps (hell I’d love for them to sell systems w/ the software Im building preconfigured), and no there won’t be a markup beyond the processing fees (long term). The subscription is opt in and goes to creators (again less the processing fee and like $1 to cover the base hosting costs until economics kick in). and its 100% self contained application. And no i’m not just wiring software that already exists together, because if i did it wouldn’t work the way i want it to work or be as slick/user friendly. And literally as I explained elsewhere it has saved me money on seedboxes.

    As I said elsewhere, you’ll all be delighted when its ready. But im not willing to say more until I have it built. Anyways did i miss any of your erroneous claims that you’d like me to address?

    edit: Hell go check out egdaemon.com. that’s also my work, and another system I’m basically offering at cost to developers. did it last Q4 last year. just go through the setup guide in a linux container. I spend a ton of effort figuring out how to make systems work painlessly and cost effectively. note: egdaemon still have some issues upstream I havent been able to address due to time/ecosystem dynamics.




  • Awesome! I’ll ping you shortly, probably over the weekend, Im packed rest of the week. I havent seen veilid! But I’ve built similar things in the past, mostly to learn as i was cutting my teeth learning many years ago.

    Looks like a straight up kademlia (from the 160bit keys at least) implementation with some modern RPC on top? would definitely consider looking closer at it. ATM I have that bit squared away enough for the initial program (though I’ve been gutting the library a bit for it to be functional for the use cases I have planned). but it’ll definitely need some love at some point. just have a million other parts to build first before the optimization bits occur.


  • I understanding your post mostly?

    You’re 100% on point! Yes the monetization is mostly for access to the cloud storage, covers the supporting infrastructure, and ideally puts some food on my and a few others table long term so we can continue improving these system, while giving users cloud storage for orders of magnitude less than whats on the market.

    I have a few other systems I’d like to invert and break the markets on as well. but these things take time to build sadly, both from a pure technical stand point and from a communal building process.

    For example ATM I have no street cred so why would people trust what I say? That’s what I’m trying to do atm with this post: build that credibility with you and other people within the community via working together and building a useful tool, that does exactly what I’ve laid out here. I expect this process to take years. =)

    And then how does advertising and content creators come into play?

    The advertising stuff is longer term, and ideally just a way for users to earn some scratch. For me its a middle finger to the current systems out there.

    But the basic idea is if the system hits a critical mass of users and is in that ‘valuable eye space’ category users will be able to enable and setup ads. The money from the ads will be credited to your account in two parts, yours and a portion towards the creators of the content you watch. Each month the creator portion will be applied on top of subscription value for the peoples whose content you’ve watched. Your portion you can do whatever you want; can be used to offset your subscription, take payouts at set values (processing fees blow).

    The ads are the hardest part to do honestly, as it requires a user base and either a platform for advertisers to use or hooking into the existing (exploitative) systems somehow. Its an area that if / when its done will be done very thoughtfully.

    but I won’t have stable internet access besides cellular for about a year.

    That makes you super valuable in this context! unstable environments are the best test beds. I usually have my dev environments setup to simulate these situations, but doesnt replace the real thing.

    Doing it all in one style might simplify the process enough to onboard less tech savvy people.

    That’s my hope! I have a few non-techies lined up for later in the process. primarily once the VPN stuff is in place; at least at that point they’ll just need to focus on signing up for a VPN and finding a private tracker.

    I am potentially interested

    Great! I’m potentially interested in working with you! ;) We’ll be in touch.



  • Thats fine. either people are interested or their not atm. I just dont have anything to show for a few more weeks. its just barely usable for me.

    I dont want to talk about the details here because this is a legal grey area in a public space, like seriously wtf you’re pushing for details on a comm with rules directly protecting it from these exact problems. I was literally trying to give people enough information to have their interest piqued and be curious and raise their hand and have some fun learning about each other. But so far the responses have been like i fucking drowned your pets. 😞 suffice to say, disappointed.



  • Primarily because I didnt want to spell it out in a public comm. But here we are.

    here is an example case for the people here, obviously the total uplink is a consideration but this is just a demonstration:

    with the storage offloading: 3TB costs €4.5 / month + €3 euro subscription.= €7.5. Cost difference between those servers: €10.8. using the smaller box + what I’m building it’ll cost €10.50/month and you’ll be able to seed 8TB instead of 6TB. And those economics only improve the bigger the box you’re currently using gets.

    On top of all that if we can get enough people on board I can do some really cool things around partial seeding of content. further reducing overall costs for everyone and improving the network.

    All the while the archive layer will have no idea what data you’ve uploaded . and you can also upload just misc stuff you want backed up but not shared for far cheaper than the current cloud drive products out there.