Preston Maness ☭

Dedicate no more than two or three replies unless you’re absolutely sure that the person is engaging in good faith. The single biggest tip-off that they are not is that they do not engage with the core of your case, and instead do any number of other things: (1) snipe at edge cases or other minutea (2) change the subject (3) move the goalposts (4) etc.

I.e., you didn’t create the @claymore username for the bit a few hours ago. You’re legit @claymore.

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Hellwig could have been more tactful, but like it or not, arguments against a cross-language codebase have merit. Framing it as a ‘clear confession of sabotage of the r4l project’, attempting to weaponize the CoC, and trying to drum up an army via social media was all out of line.

When a maintainer calls somebody’s efforts “cancer” – “spreading this cancer to core subsystems” – and that they’ll do everything they can to halt those efforts – “I will do everything I can do to stop this” – that’s as clear an indication of sabotage as you will ever get.

Martin seems to understand that adding a second language to the kernel is not only a technical concern, but a political one as well. Everyone else wants to pretend politics isn’t at play and that their objections are “purely technical.” They aren’t. I definitely understand Martin’s frustration here.

for it to be plain sailing adding it to the kernel some of the worlds’ foremost domain experts on operating systems would have to re-learn basically everything.

This is the core problem. It’s a social problem, not a technical one.