I mean it’s kinda hard to separate from COVID and the set back in their housing market. Basically in an attempt to meet their GDP quotas local governments loaned out way too much money to keep production. So local governments are in a lot of debt which at some point should have cascading effects on the economy.

But you gotta hand it to the guy, he took control of the most powerful nation the world has ever known

Eh, that’s kinda feeding into the propaganda surrounding him. In reality the Russian Federation is just run by the people who scammed the most citizens from their ownership rights after the privatization of the Soviet state. Since the fall of the Soviet state, it’s basically been pretending to be a world power by bullying smaller nations with the military it inherited.

His real talent is propagandizing and intimidating his way to the top of basically a government run by a mob.

it’s pretty clear who’s pulling the oompa-lumpas strings)

Again, I think this is exactly what they want you to think. I just think trump wants what Putin has, supreme power to whatever he wants, and a state where his cronies can do whatever they want so long as they are loyal. American oligarchs have been envious of Russian oligarchs for some time now.

This is going to be a hard pill to swallow for the Russian nationalist cosplaying as leftist on Lemmy…

More than likely possible depending on how they came up with valuations on old stock piles from the cold war. Depends on if you value them based on their original cost, or the modern cost to replace them.

Yeap, I just think trump went to Russia and liked how they did things. I think American billionaires see the government as a boss, and they think rich people shouldn’t be able to be told no. They think if there is a hierarchy of power they should get to wield it to do the things they want to do, it shouldn’t ever be wielded against them.

I think that’s why he is generally bewildered when he is still told no, or held accountable, and why he’s so vindictive when he’s told no. He doesn’t really understand why people are allowed to say no, in his head he’s boss of America.

So when he sees Putin getting to do whatever he wants without any resistance, it makes sense to him, and he’s jealous. If Putin is boss of Russia, why can’t I be boss of America?

I mean… If your only real accomplishment is inheriting huge sums of wealth, it makes a bunch of sense. I personally don’t really see the need for Trump to be compromised by Russian intelligence, American oligarchs have always been jealous of the federations kleptocracy.

What could be better for someone like Trump and his cronies than a system where as long as you’re loyal you can literally do anything you want?

Have a journalist poking around your business, simply introduce them to the window. A rival business won’t sell you their company for nothing? Make a call and have the government do a “corruption investigation”. Your company is coming under protest for displacing minority groups…off to jail for subversion.

The Russian Federation is just America in ten years of we don’t make a drastic about face. Our oligarchs have been pushing that way for a while, trump is just accelerating the process.

think he’s accelerating the decline of the US empire. And I think a new multipolar world with China taking on a leading role will emerge shortly. Within a few years at latest.

Thinking of geopolitics as a polarity is a way to make a complex subject more digestible, however when it’s examined against actual history its highly reductive.

Even when the world was less complicated and communist nations weren’t a hodgepodge of mixed markets, nothing was delineated so cleanly into something as simple as multipolarism.

Democratic capitalist nations still overthrew emerging capitalist democracies, communist nations still went to war with other communist nations. I think it’s a bit optimistic to believe that political and economic instability inexplicably births unity.

I’m sure there will be some takers, but to be honest their real bread and butter is mostly petroleum products which directly compete with American petroleum companies. Sanctions against a competitor are vastly more valuable than the oil itself to American petroleum corporations.

As far as other minerals go, they are valuable… But most of them are going right to the production market in China.

It really doesn’t behoove corporate America to partner with Russian interests, which is kinda surprising why we haven’t really seen a lot of backlash yet. I’m guessing they’re keeping their heads down for now and seeing if the tax cuts are worth all the hassle.

I’m sure that there will be some capital holders who are willing to invest in Russia, however I don’t really think a lot of the big players will be rushing back to Russia.

A large reason Russia has had such an about face since the early 00’s is because a huge amount of western capital pulled out of Moscow after they invaded Georgia in 08. Since then Putin has had to double down in his overtly aggressive pillaging from Russia’s neighbors to maintain his hierarchy of control over the oligarchs in Russia.

The invasion of Ukraine is largely a part of a sunk cost fallacy of his blunder in 08. I don’t think he realized how skittish his power plays made foreign investors, nor did he predict the following sanctions that followed in his attempts to recover his power over the oligarchs.

always assumed American corpos would swoop in and rebuild, subsidized by the US govt and compensated by prime real estate ownership or something like that.

Yeah, but that doesn’t really require Americans on the ground doing work. They would just hire cheaper Ukrainian labour to extract the wealth.

Lol, even assuming that things work as planned and we do end up stealing the wealth of another nation…does anyone really think it’s going to be Americans physically extracting the resources?

How much is it going to cost to send skilled workers to a war zone that’s been shelled and mined to all hell for the last 3 years? And if we do end up spending out the nose to pay Americans, how the hell is that going to be profitable? Corporations will barely pay a livable wage to Americans working in America.

Yeap, a lot of people confuse market capitalization with market share. The two should be somewhat intrinsically tethered in some way, but a lot of investing nowadays is purely speculation based on marketing (aka lying).

Not uh bro, just give them another 5 years and their build quality will improve…

It’s almost like manufacturing vehicles takes skilled labor or something. I’ll be happy when their valuation finally reflects something approaching realistic numbers. Just comparing simple metrics like employee retention should have been enough to tip off investors that Tesla was massively overvalued.

I mean there’s a reason the other major manufacturers haven’t killed off unions completely. You can’t just keep replacing your entire workforce every couple years and expect any kind of quality control.

Yes, and it’s not including the initial invasion and occupation from 2014-2022. However, these types of people see any kind of logical assumption as outright manipulation and opportunities to validate their “alternative facts”.

Russia is not israel, they don’t attack civilians (despite what similar liars to yourself will claim) and civilian infrastructure and life goes on.

"As of 31 August, the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine (HRMMU) had verified that conflict-related violence had killed 11,743 civilians and injured 24,614 in Ukraine since 24 February 2022.

During the reporting period, Russian armed forces continued to target energy infrastructure across Ukraine, affecting essential services and deepening concerns about the plight of the civilian population with winter approaching."

Honesty seems to be a problematic concept for the people supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine…

Also, I am surprised you even pretend to care about constitutions considering Putin had to rewrite Russias to stay in power past 2024.

Almost as much of a waste of time as creating alt accounts solely to defend Russian geopolitics?

Honestly, what is the point of pretending to be a leftist while defending the Russian oligarchs? I get critical of the American oligarchs, but what is the point of cheerleading an even more hierarchical and violent form of capitalist imperialism?

Did Russia consider how much it would escalate tension in Europe when he invaded Ukraine?

I don’t really understand how people forget that Russia has the primary ability and responsibility of maintaining good relations with their neighbors.

It’s not like a company would ever lie to the public for money. They definitely wouldn’t ever think of slowly rolling back free services and monetizing them… I mean where would anyone even get that idea about a tech company?

I mean, they’re definitely not a fan of the free market?

Being economically leftist doesn’t mean you aren’t culturally conservative. Births out of wedlock in China and really most of east Asia are exceedingly rare. The household registration system they use to allow families access to things like education and healthcare is tied into marriage certificates.