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There’s two parties you could have voted for, you put the other one in charge in the previous term and it didn’t help.

The problem is that America is democratic and it’s getting the government that its voters are demanding.

If you want to become Canadian, why not move to Canada? There’s an immigration process you can apply for.

You’re still asking us to do all the hard work for you.

Maybe now’s the time for them to become left-wing gun nuts, then. Or did guns suddenly become hard to come by in America?

As long as it’s other people who are made homeless, locked up, and killed by your government, that’s a price worth paying, eh?

I’m well aware that Americans are just regular people and are going to have all the same regular-person failings that allow authoritarians to take over as well. But Americans have spent generations bragging triumphantly about how different and better they were and how it couldn’t happen there, so I don’t think I’ll be letting that slide quite yet.

It’s nice to be able to brag about how democratic your country is until the administration that your democracy put into power starts doing awful things. Then suddenly “please forgive us, this has nothing to do with us.”

I don’t condemn every Russian because Putin is a giant asshole, I condemn them because they’re content to “stay out of politics” and let Putin use their country to commit atrocities against their innocent neighbours. I condemn all of those who haven’t taken at least the same risks and efforts that their neighbours are forced to take to defend themselves.

I like that “realistic” caveat that you’ve thrown in there. Does that mean that all that rhetoric about the 2nd Amendment and “the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants” was never realistic?

That, and the common refrain of “I can’t go to the protest, I need my job” clearly indicates that freedom has a price tag for them and it’s surprisingly low.

Please don’t hold it against all of us.

Sorry, running out of sympathy here. All my life Americans have talked a big game about how anti-tyrant they are, how their democracy is so wonderful and in the event that it fails they’ve got their precious guns to go set things right. Land of the free, home of the brave.

You don’t get to talk that big game and then flip over to “please don’t hold it against us!” Without getting called on it. I keep seeing Americans begging for other countries to come in and “save” them. Isn’t that the problem here? Sort your own problems out. The only thing the rest of the world is obligated to do is keep you contained.

No, you’re not understanding. Those states may be “left-leaning” on the American political spectrum, but they’re still far right from the Canadian perspective. We do not want Americans.

Sort yourselves out, other countries aren’t coming to your rescue and would appreciate if you’d keep your politics more to yourself.

Canadian here. We very much do not want any American territory. It’s got Americans in it.

My main concern is that this is what a lot of people (myself included) thought about Trump sticking around. We need to remain on guard no matter how awful PP is, because you just never know how low the electorate will go.

We dodged such a bullet last election.

“America bad” does not mean “Russia good.”

The problem, as I understand it, is that the NATO treaty has some stuff in it that is specifically and explicitly the responsibility of the US and having the US abruptly drop out makes the whole thing kind of broken. So a new NATO treaty will need to be quickly organized among those who remain interested.

I have proposed calling it NATWO, we’ll see if they take my advice I suppose.

Even if it doesn’t get better in a global sense, I’ll still feel quite happy that day.

Volodymyr Zelensky did an interview with David Letterman in 2022 and told a joke.

“Two Jewish guys from Odesa meet up,” Zelensky says. “One asks the other: ‘So what’s the situation? What are people saying?‘” And he goes, ‘What are people saying? They are saying it’s a war.’”

“What kind of war?”

“Russia is fighting NATO.”

“Are you serious?”

“Yes, yes! Russia is fighting NATO.”

“So how’s it going?”

“Well, 70,000 Russian soldiers are dead. The missile stockpile has almost been depleted. A lot of equipment is damaged, blown up.”

“And what about NATO?”

“What about NATO? NATO hasn’t arrived yet.”

It’s going to be super embarrassing for Russia when NATO disbands entirely and Russia still loses.

It’s a bit more complicated than that. NATO was about projecting US style hegemony. NATO’s members were okay with a country like the United States being “in charge” because the US used to understand that there was win/win to be had from the relationship.

The United States stopped being like that. I could potentially see NATO continuing on without the US - or more likely a successor organization, since the literal NATO treaty would be tricky to preserve word-for-word in that situation. I can’t see it continuing on with the US, though, since the US no longer believes in NATO’s goals.

Reddit isn’t a court of law, mods don’t really have to follow any particular rules other than “be profitable for Reddit Inc.”

It’s okay, he’s apparently in pretty dire straits too. His son was supposed to be his replacement, so having them both go out at the same time is even better.