Wait, I’m on the side of the robots for this one?

“Propaganda doesn’t exist in my country”

Ofc it fucking does. But “Europe” isn’t a country, is it, dipshit? Europe isn’t a hegemony. You need a hegemony for proper propaganda. How is this so hard for you to understand? Are you honestly so willfully ignorant you don’t know what “hegemony” means that you won’t spend 10 seconds checking the meaning? :D

What does discussing the Spanish civil war have to do with Russians being ashamed of being loser Ruskis? Either you’re a super shamed Ruski, or even worse, a European who’s bought into their propaganda. (I genuinely think the latter is worse tbh.)

It’s a great burger btw.

Russian disinfo is objectively massive. Yet you’re literally defending it like a conditioned dog.

I said you’re making up the scale of it, which you are.

The scale of “non-insignificant”? Yes, obviously it’s me who’s overreacting here. Lol.

No, not everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian, but most who virulently talk of “the West” and “European propaganda”, especially bringing it out when Russia is criticised turn out to be. It’s kinda funny, because said Ruskis never understand how see-through they are. Just like Davel. And even if I’m 100% confident he is Russian, and even had the evidence to prove it, he would never admit to it, because, why would he?

The point here is that Europe isn’t a hegemony. There is no “European propaganda” in the same sense there is organised Russian disinformation. To argue against that is just idiocy, and shows how little you understand what it’s like to live in Europe. And not all of Europe is EU either, even if EU had some sort of hegemony — which it doesn’t.

Lmao, that’s unbelievable, you’re literally the joke of the CIA agent telling the KGB agent that there’s no propaganda in the US

Oh like Russians who just stomp their foot and insist Lemmy doesn’t have Russians, okay it has Russians but not Russians pretending to be from other countries, okay Russians pretending to be from other countries but not on this absolutely gargantuan scale which you said, okay you didn’t say a gargantuan scale, you just said “non-insignificant”, but still, I’m right and you’re wrong.

Remember when I asked you if you were a Ruski, if you’d admit to it, or pretend to be from another country? Yeah… ;>

wyaaa wikipedia doesn’t have source-criticism or discussion, but it’s 100% “anglo-propaganda” *(holy fuck I’m giggling thanks for making my day, depressions really beating my ass so I need proper giggles like this)’ so you can’t trust anything on Wikipedia, you just should trust Lemmings like Davel and Yogthos etc.

Roflmao

I probably didn’t answer all your garbage but I’m off to have a burger now, I’ll read more about you crying and defending Russian disinfo later, because you won’t be able to give this up, because I’ve called you out on your BS and that just annoys you so when people don’t just do what they regularly do with people like you, which is to ignore them.

Like it’s so hilarious that you’re implying that basically only if Russia themselves admit to actively doing disinfo, then it’s gonna be trustworthy, but anyone else saying anything about it is bs? :D

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/schwerpunkte/EN/disinformation/examples-of-russian-disinformation-and-the-facts.html

Bund.de is probably just european propaganda and all made up but Russia doesn’t do disinfo right? Ruahahaha

I have a hard time understanding how most of Ruskis are so simple and yet still have the most chess GM’s and such good spycraft at higher levels.

Oh, getting a bit mad, huh? Where were you born and raised?

A whole essay shifting your goalposts. You said I’m making up Russians pretending to be Americans. I give you a every clear example, and you just kick off a tantrum about how “European propaganda” this and that. Clearly setting sort of teams here. And implying I’m on one (European) and by implication that you’re on another.

I’m really not up to writing an essay where I answer all your whataboutism and shitty implications.

If you’re pretending like “European propaganda” exists, that there’s some hegemonic culture which unites all the countries and thus all their intelligence apparatuses as well and they share coordinated disinformation campaigns equal to those of Russia? Get fucked, you know how ridiculous of a notion that is. Europe isn’t a hegemony, unlike Russia, which is absolutely infamous for its disinformation campaigns, all over the world. Objectively.

As social media gained prominence in the 2010s, Russia began to use platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and YouTube to spread disinformation. Russian web brigades and bots, typically operated by Russia’s Internet Research Agency (IRA), were commonly used to disseminate disinformation throughout these social media channels.[24] In late 2017 Facebook estimated that as many as 126 million of its users had seen content from Russian disinformation campaigns on its platform.[25] Twitter stated that it had found 36,000 Russian bots spreading tweets related to the 2016 United States elections.[26] Russia has used social media to destabilize former Soviet states such as Ukraine and Western nations such as France and Spain.[27] It has been suggested that since 2019, Russian-sponsored troll accounts and bots have formed and taken over prominent left-wing and right-wing subreddits on Reddit, such as the antiwar, greenandpleasant, and aboringdystopia subreddits, “suggest[ing] a Russian-led attempt to antagonize and influence Americans online, which is still ongoing.”[28] Canadian subreddits have also been directly targeted by Russia. [29]

Social media companies have moved to limit Russian disinformation on their platforms. In October 2019, Facebook moved to take down accounts connected to Yevgeny Prigozhin used to interfere with African political affairs.[30] Cameron Hudson, a senior fellow of the Africa Center at the Atlantic Council at the time, said Russia’s aim is to make its presence felt in the same way it did during the Cold War, but with a much smaller investment using disinformation campaigns.[30] In 2020, the United States State Department identified several “proxy sites” used by Russian state actors “to create and amplify false narratives”. These sites include the Strategic Culture Foundation, New Eastern Outlook, Crimea-based news agency NewsFront, and SouthFront, a website targeted at “military enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists”.[31] Russian influence operations, such as the Pravda network, have increasingly spread content that serves as training data for large language models in order to influence the output produced

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation

Look at profiles like Davel@lemmy.ml

Literally pretending to be a red-blooded American while doing comments like “reality has a well known Russian propaganda-bias”, and having several comments on his profiles in fluent Russian.

If you were a Russian online in today’s atmosphere, would you admit to it, or pretend to be from another country?

No matter how much I’d like to make up shit against Russia, there’s no need. Unlike Russians, we Finns don’t feel the need to lie for our despotic leader. Mainly because we don’t have one. Haven’t had one since 1809 pretty much. Well, arguably a bit from 1809 to 1917, but I wouldn’t make that argument.

So yeah. Feel like reasoning your feelings out at all? Could help others figure out what you’re thinking.

A non-insignificant portion are Russians pretending to be Americans.

I mean, a large portion of Lemmy is Russians.

I find it the funniest when actual Russians like Davel@lemmy.ml, pretend to be Americans and go “why would Russian propaganda even care about something as small as lemmy?” Oh hmm let me think, an open unregulated and uncontrolled platform for spreading whatever, whenever and how much ever, why would that interest anyone pushing an agenda hmmm…

It’s crazy how many people defend these propaganda bots

Too true.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyaakim/2026/02/24/another-camel-beauty-contest-is-rocked-by-a-botox-cheating-scandal/

I would love some al dente carbonara right now. Unfortunately I think I’m oversensitive to gluten and dairy proteins. I’ve been trying for a few years now and that’s the conclusion I somewhat have to draw. Which sucks balls.

Well at least our Finnish national dish is still traditional. Take cubed beef and pork. Put them in water. Add salt. Put on heat for a sufficient amount of time.

That’s it.

Fancy modern versions have peppers and whatnot but traditionally it’s just salt.

Well it is.

And it’s not a secret either.

Trump is Putin’s lapdog and Putin just wants to destabilise US and EU to level the playing field for Russia.

Often Russian campaigns aim to disrupt domestic politics within Europe and the United States in an attempt to weaken the West

Russia seeks to promote American isolationism, border security concerns and racial tensions within the United States through its disinformation campaigns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation

Doing that in Europe would be a bit different than doing it in South-America. No offense to any South-Americans, but they’ve a long history of being generally fucked over by 'Muurica.

American Dad - Oliver North

It’s about as massive a thing as plastic straws and that annyoing little tab in all caps now.

“a year”? Trump became president in 2016 though. Everything’s been shit since.

Shut the fuck up, Russian apologists.

For such a proud and powerful, you sure are afraid to take ownership of your actions. You fight like pussies.

Are you still refusing to call the Russo-Ukrainian war (which was started by Putler illegally invading Ukraine) a “special military operation”?

Wouldn’t it be easier just to take an x-ray to confirm?

Then based on the results give laxatives or don’t.

Not necessarily. If you happen to use “use Google to sign up” (at least a few years back) it just generated a username for you, without asking.

It gave me the username of Big-Mathematician[3digit number] and people kept throwing math memes at me despite me not really having any interest in maths.

But yeah lots are bots, but a generated username doesn’t mean they’re necessarily a bot.

That being said idn wtf I even read there seemed like aome sort of modern version of Hitler Jugend.

Hey hey hey. It’s 60 million yen. That’s only like ~384 000 USD.