Except that they are separated. The clean side (model + implementors) doesnt have the original source code. The dirty side is the training room, which does have original source.

The model that you download from huggingface is basically the notebook passed between the two rooms, and as far as im aware, the model doesnt have the actual training data in it, just enough statistics to “hallucinate” something close.

Uptime Kuma, only really care if it’s up or not. Got about 30 services monitored, sending notifications to Signal.

Thats not a difference. Other clean room projects, for example ReactOS, have source projects that are incompatibly licenced. Its the entire point of clean room reversing, to bypass copyright and licencing.

The training data is on the dirty room side, it doesnt get passed to the clean side.

The clean room concept is violated if raw source code is in the model generated, but to my knowledge its not. There is no way to pull out a chunk of the model, and say “This is a direct copy of main.c from xyz project”. At best, you can ask the LLM to guess what it should be, and it’ll regurgitate something statistically close. I just tried asking my local qwen3.8, and did produce a close summary of the nginx main file, but it wasn’t even close to a 1 to 1 copy.

The clean room would also be violated if you consider the training, model and inference as a singular entity, but that would be tough to argue when the inference can happen on one server, the resulting model isn’t functional in any way, its a big box of data, and the inference can happen on any GPU anywhere else in the world.

Clean room reversing is just laundering code, always has been.

Rewriting code into English/GGUF/Klingon/whatever, and then getting someone else to rewrite it back into code is just laundering it. Its been legally accepted for a while, and many projects we take for granted today started that way.

Whether this case is “clean” enough is up to the courts ultimately, but its laundering either way.

User process makes sense, but login shell is probably limited value. If your service gets pwn’d the attacker will spin up a reverse shell, and that isn’t protected by the login shell. You ideally want to use selinux/apparmor to prevent execution, or containers to limit the available execution environment.

Which European neighbours are actively trade-warring each other?

European countries aren’t openly antagonistic to their neighbours.

Chill out. They’ve release debs and rpms for years as well, is that EEE?

Don’t clouds mostly just rely on replication across zones though?

I would have thought tapes were just too slow to be useful in that environment.

I’ll read up on the IBM deep archive.

If they don’t, report them.

Does make you wonder who does use tape? Id assume big businesses just use cloud, so who is left that uses tape?

I didn’t look tbh, I just assumed it would be 1-2k. 8-10 is crazy.

Does kinda backup my point though :/

https://www.unitex.co.jp/en/products/hardware/lto/lto-tapedrive/

Found from a google, no experience with it.

Tape is not a nice medium for the self-hoster, the drives are expensive, the tapes need to be carefully stored securely (temperature and humidity controled). Its a lot of hassle. That said, if you find something good, I’m interested as well, so report back.

To be fair, their job is to get high…

This has nothing to do with piracy…

There is no point doing it. Reddit will have your old comments in their DB, and they can still train on it or sell it to others. At most, delete/edit creates a new version in their DB, the old data is still there.

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a command printed the answer you need — a token

So, you typed this, and didn’t stop here to consider the ramifications of storing tokens unencrypted in a central DB? Did you learn anything from the Windows Recall backlash?

Nginx proxy manager is the easy way. Spin it up and the UI is fairly straight forward. You can also achieve the same thing with nginx or caddy, but you’ll have to set up the configs by hand.

https://nginxproxymanager.com/

It has definitely worked for me in the past, maybe it broke recently :(