• Valmond@lemmy.world
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    Civilised world:

    Where you can speak your mind.

    Is it really that hard?

    That doesn’t mean the people in those countries cannot be civilised, as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.

    Incoming: “USA bad”

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      Where you can speak your mind.

      The US killed 200,000 Iraqis and 70,000 Afghans. They were all civilians.

      France and Israel fund the RSF, which rape, murder, ransom, and cause terror to the Sudanese people.

      Britain and France carved up the middle east like their plaything after the Arab revolt, and funded ultra-conservatism.

      Not even 100 years ago, Germany committed one of the worst genocides known to man, against Jews.

      All of these countries fund the on-going Palestinian genocide, and fund the gulf states, which employ slavery, and commit endless human rights abuses.

      But you’re civilized, and we’re just a bunch of savages.

      as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.

      What does this even mean? mass shootings happen in the US every week.

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          The world isn’t black and white. But calling them “civilized” is disingenuous. A country can’t be civilized while also massacring and committing genocides abroad, no matter how much freedom you have.

          No country is civilized, from what i can tell.

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              I wasn’t saying the west is barbaric, but pretending that it is a beacon of morality is just silly.

              The west is the best place to live in, because of exploitation of the third world.

              And what do you even mean by a millennia? Not even 100 years ago, Europe was incredibly racist, and feudalist. They committed:

              The holocaust, Bengal genocide, free Congo, the Sudanese genocide and Gaza genocide.

              PS: fuck China, too. I’m no tankie.

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                Lol where did I pretend we’re a beacon of morality? Stop inventing dreams to make your arguments valid.

                It’s kind of ironic though, you’re using a European invention (the computer) trying to convey that we are all bad using a USA invention (the internet).

                How ironic.

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                  You literally said the west is the most civilised place in the world.

                  And without us, you wouldn’t even have the concepts to invent any of those, so I guess by your logic you can’t criticize us now.

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                    What a torturous logic, yes the west is the most civilised place there is. Why wouldn’t I criticise you, I live in the west, we are not jailed if we criticise, that was one of the points earlier, don’t you remember? You are inventing and dreaming again.

                    Are you dreaming of the west maybe? We who invented democracy?

                    What country are you from that made us invent democracy, the human rights and so much more? Dream land I guess.

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      Where you can speak your mind.

      Have you seen the crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism in like half the Weet? If that’s youe standard for civilization then your “civilized world” is gonna be two or three countries tops.

      That doesn’t mean the people in those countries cannot be civilised, as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.

      I legit don’t understand what you mean there.

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        I can say free palestine, scream it even and nothing will happen to me. Where on earth do you get your clickbait news from?

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          Uh… Look up “crackdowns on pro-Palestine activists” and see what you’ll get. It’s mostly a thing in university campuses, which while definitely not as bad as China is absolutely not free speech.

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            No one article in the whole EU comes up, guess I just have to trust you on this one.

            Or are you one of those crazy “free speech” americans?

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                You are right, it’s not perfect. It’s the whole WW2 holocauste, jews, israel thing haunting germany I guess. To be fair there problems in every european country and the US too.

                I wouldn’t say we are living in some opressive dictatorship exactly though but you already said that :-)