• grue@lemmy.worldOP
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    20 days ago

    Relevant to !selfhosted because one of the projects getting funding cut is Let’s Encrypt.

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      20 days ago

      Let’s Encrypt has done so much for encouraging the spread of HTTPS and good certificate practices. If they went away, I honestly think a good chunk of the internet would start breaking after ~6 months.

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        20 days ago

        Less HTTPS = easier government & advertiser data collection

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            20 days ago

            When I spin up a new self hosted service it’s easier to add caddy to the stack than to convince Firefox to load http.

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            20 days ago

            HTTP works fine in Firefox unless you set it to HTTPS only. Even then, you only have to click off a warning to open an HTTP site.

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              But if you try to load a local resource as localhost in Firefox…

              For the sake of completeness:

              Firefox contains a security patch which restricts the kinds of files that pages can load (and methods of loading) when you open them from a file:// URL. This change was made to prevent exfiltration of valuable data within reach of a local page, as demonstrated in an available exploit.

              More info: https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/CORS/Errors/CORSRequestNotHttp

              Insecure, but fast fix, if you don’t want to install a local webserver:

              about:config
              security.fileuri.strict_origin_policy
              change to false

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              20 days ago

              I’d rather not send credentials over plain text. Even in a homelab environment

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            20 days ago

            I’m sure google will fix that in chrome, like killing adblocker functionality.

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        At least there’s some competitors now, which could be used as drop-in replacements if Let’s Encrypt were to disappear.

        I suspect the vast majority of certificate authorities will implement the ACME protocol eventually, since the industry as a whole is moving towards certificates with shorter expiry times, meaning that automation will essentially be mandatory unless you like manually updating certs every 90-180 days.

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      It’s okay, Let’s Encrypt only provides SSL certs for… 63.7% of the market?

      Okay okay, that is a lot. But what does a CA need funding for anyway? It doesn’t take much bandwidth to send out new certs.

      The only thing that could be expensive is if they had to rapidly invalidate thousands of certs to protect the security of the entire internet.

      But haha, that’s a pretty outlandish scenario that would never happen.

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        20 days ago

        Same. I’ve been thinking about who to donate to this year, and it looks like they’re making the cut. I’ll probably also throw some money at my Lemmy instance and a handful of projects I use, including Tor, because apparently they got caught in the dragnet too.

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            19 days ago

            Far more than I can reasonably support:

            • self hosted things I use - caddy, the document foundation, Jellyfin, Forgejo, etc
            • Android apps - F-Droid, NewPipe, Signal, RethinkDNS, etc
            • desktop apps - flatpak, For, Godot, etc
            • infrastructure stuff - let’s encrypt, openssh, Linux distros (mine doesn’t accept donations unfortunately), etc

            But the short list for now is:

            • Let’s Encrypt
            • Signal
            • F-Droid

            And I’ll probably run a Tor relay or something as well.

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          19 days ago

          Well donating is good it’s not going to replace the government funding.