but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.
His lineage is literally the Nazi party, he’s been indoctrinated from birth with that shit, not recently
But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered
He was born rich and lucked his way to more riches, simple as. Turns out rich idiots just do bad things, so it’s easy to find out that they’ve done so. Quite literally a requirement in capitalism to be a monster if you want to “win”
I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”. And that his dad claims to say apartheid is bad but said some sus stuff over the years.
Even if he didn’t do the work himself and sounded like a complete idiot in that leaked Twitter meeting, he did objectively advance society. I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash. Musk outlived his usefulness long ago though and is a net negative now to the point of almost undoing all the good he may had had a hand in creating. Society can survive this level of capitalism if it prevented generational wealth. The incompetency compounds and the inevitable conclusion has finally revealed itself.
I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”
So you failed to find the part where they left Canada for South Africa because, as members of the Canadian Nazi Party, Canada wasn’t fucked enough for them? It’s like… Basic info on his family
he did objectively advance society.
Lol, no, that would be the people he paid. He deserves 0 credit for that
I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash
Oh, so you’re an idiot, gotcha, gonna just disengage
If it’s so basic, obvious, and universally agreed, then he would have been boycotted much sooner. And yeah there’s only so much time I’m gonna put into research to reply to a random Lemmy thread. He’s a piece of shit and I don’t need to look for more evidence of that - it’s not going to change my opinion or cause me to take new actions. Even if you’re right, my greater point is about how blackmail and secrets drive power. Pedophilia, Nazism, same shit from that perspective.
I know he’s not actually a founder, but he deserves credit because EV companies have been getting outplayed for decades and now we finally them. People are tools, they do what they’re paid for. Very few truly innovate or move any kind of needle anywhere.
We’ll probably never know how many lives have been saved from FSD due to drunk/tired drivers who have already made the decision to drive instead of picking up their car in the morning or renting a hotel room. And I’m not aware of other EVs that have charging integrated into their navigation. And single pedal driving is awesome.
Amazon has crazy innovation in automation and logistics that allow us to get all kinds of shit with same-day, overnight, or two-day shipping. Their rearchitecture to api-driven software was hugely impactful, and they pretty much invented the cloud.
Uber introduced transparent pricing and accountability for taxi drivers to actually provide a good experience for their customers
DoorDash means we can get more than just shitty pizza or Chinese food.
All of these things make life better. The problem is that when people go (or reveal their) crazy we don’t strip their power or influence. The money and fame goes to their head and because they’re rich they don’t need to listen to advice because they begin to think they’re an expert in everything, and their money means they can succeed in new things, such having the ability to recognize whether or not they’re the baddies.
But hey since we’re insulting each other, I’d like to point out that guillotines are pretty big so before you’re actually gonna be able to build one, you’re gonna need to touch grass. In other words, you need to recruit allies if you want to win. I wish the world were more simple, too. But it isn’t.
His lineage is literally the Nazi party, he’s been indoctrinated from birth with that shit, not recently
He was born rich and lucked his way to more riches, simple as. Turns out rich idiots just do bad things, so it’s easy to find out that they’ve done so. Quite literally a requirement in capitalism to be a monster if you want to “win”
I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”. And that his dad claims to say apartheid is bad but said some sus stuff over the years.
Even if he didn’t do the work himself and sounded like a complete idiot in that leaked Twitter meeting, he did objectively advance society. I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash. Musk outlived his usefulness long ago though and is a net negative now to the point of almost undoing all the good he may had had a hand in creating. Society can survive this level of capitalism if it prevented generational wealth. The incompetency compounds and the inevitable conclusion has finally revealed itself.
So you failed to find the part where they left Canada for South Africa because, as members of the Canadian Nazi Party, Canada wasn’t fucked enough for them? It’s like… Basic info on his family
Lol, no, that would be the people he paid. He deserves 0 credit for that
Oh, so you’re an idiot, gotcha, gonna just disengage
If it’s so basic, obvious, and universally agreed, then he would have been boycotted much sooner. And yeah there’s only so much time I’m gonna put into research to reply to a random Lemmy thread. He’s a piece of shit and I don’t need to look for more evidence of that - it’s not going to change my opinion or cause me to take new actions. Even if you’re right, my greater point is about how blackmail and secrets drive power. Pedophilia, Nazism, same shit from that perspective.
I know he’s not actually a founder, but he deserves credit because EV companies have been getting outplayed for decades and now we finally them. People are tools, they do what they’re paid for. Very few truly innovate or move any kind of needle anywhere.
We’ll probably never know how many lives have been saved from FSD due to drunk/tired drivers who have already made the decision to drive instead of picking up their car in the morning or renting a hotel room. And I’m not aware of other EVs that have charging integrated into their navigation. And single pedal driving is awesome.
Amazon has crazy innovation in automation and logistics that allow us to get all kinds of shit with same-day, overnight, or two-day shipping. Their rearchitecture to api-driven software was hugely impactful, and they pretty much invented the cloud.
Uber introduced transparent pricing and accountability for taxi drivers to actually provide a good experience for their customers
DoorDash means we can get more than just shitty pizza or Chinese food.
All of these things make life better. The problem is that when people go (or reveal their) crazy we don’t strip their power or influence. The money and fame goes to their head and because they’re rich they don’t need to listen to advice because they begin to think they’re an expert in everything, and their money means they can succeed in new things, such having the ability to recognize whether or not they’re the baddies.
But hey since we’re insulting each other, I’d like to point out that guillotines are pretty big so before you’re actually gonna be able to build one, you’re gonna need to touch grass. In other words, you need to recruit allies if you want to win. I wish the world were more simple, too. But it isn’t.