• LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Large areas of Ukraine democratically seceded after the 2014 coup. Since Russia reconsolidated their lines along the Dnieper there have been no Russian soldiers in Ukraine at all. Kiev is the occupying force.

    The accusations you’re making are fictional, but “kidnapping children” is especially ridiculous given the context. Russia has taken great effort to reunite orphans with their closest family, whether it be in Russia or Ukraine. To say they are “kidnapping children” implies the government owns the child, not their family. And that tracks. Ukrainians are now serfs under their neofeudal corporate Blackrock lords, tied to the land like deer of the forest. Men are drowning in rivers trying to escape.

    You’re denying them the democratic human right of self determination. Let them vote. They’ll tell you if they want to continue the war. They’ll tell you if they’re Ukrainian or not. That’s how democracy works.

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      I wont take democratic tips from a supporter of Russian aggression thanks.

      You are outright lying about the state sponsored kidnapping of Ukrainian children by the Russian state. I note you skipped over the other war crimes.

      If you move the borders of any country you can claim to not be invading.

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        The people who actually live there changed that fact. It was the Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples Republics before it was Russia.

        I don’t know why it’s so surprising about the children. Former Eastern Ukraine was mostly ethnic Russian. Russia has accepted more war refugees than any other nation. Orphans have a very good chance that’s where their closest family lives.

        Russia has returned many children West. This is all well known, if under-reported.

        The rest is fanciful imagination and misplaced atrocities of Banderites themselves. You’ll believe anything because you want to believe anything.

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          They bombed an aid station since we started this dialogue.

          https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-cyberattacks-emergency-apps-717372f7bbf4e8a805bc918f06f9730f

          Those children were just resting in their accounts. I see.

          Ah…it was all for those two regions only. That obviously had no corruption or interference from Russia. That is why the parachuted into kiev in 2022. That is why they seized Crimea…because they holidayed there. Benidorm better watch out, they’ll have a new King under your rules.

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            3 days ago

            …Ukrainian officials said.

            Banderites are not the pinnacles of honesty. They say lots of stuff.

            Why would Russia do that, the inherent evil that lurks in the hearts of all Russians? Give me a break.

            The only reason civilians would be so close to the front line is that they’re what the Banderites call “waiters”, people who are waiting for the Russians and refuse to evacuate West. Mariupol was also full of waiters, including in the Opera House.

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              2 days ago

              They just hit a hospital, I guess that hospital only housed…waiters?

              Much like the creches and schools of previous war crimes.

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                "73 people’s injured " is not a Russian missile. Russians hit energy facilities with missiles. When smaller anti aircraft missiles fail to stop the large missiles then they fall back to earth. This gets blamed on Russia because it makes Kiev look bad. Israel does the same thing with blaming Hezbollah.

                Every accusation is a confession.

                Meanwhile, locals are surrounding an Azov Brigade “hospital” where they’re beating child soldiers with shovels, torturing forced conscripts.

                It’s not “Ukrainian officials say…” You can see yourself.

                https://t.me/southfronteng/65128