Feels like its already that way. I got around my bans so I have 1 acct on another machine I never use. After I posted I went to check it out, naw not missing anything. Tons of reposts, AI slop, and what looks like bots trying to stir up engagement.
reddit is like the majority of social media in that respect, if you do not go for a curated view (subscribed etc) it is complete trash (a reflection of society in general)
reddit still serves a purpose for me, but only for a few communities that do not exist (or do not exist well) here.
That was the reason to make the clandestine account was for the few hobby related subs that I like to keep tabs on. Otherwise you are 100% on, “All” is garbage.
I did on one of my old accounts block anyone w/ 500k post karma and all the huge subreddits and that made “All” ok. But this was in like 2018. There was also a curated list of all the spammers/cross posters/karma whores I added to the block list.
Pretty sure they prevent new accounts posts from showing up as often as others, or just straight up hide posts from new accounts these days. Especially if you signed up with proton mailz or in the web browser, vs linking your google play login to the app on a phone that’s not already flagged.
You have to try really hard to farm karma on new accounts and on my old account I could reply with simple one word response and still somehow get 4 upvotes. And I didn’t have followers or was a big figure people would remember the name of or anything. It feels like after a set time and a certain amount of karma you start showing up more.
I think they’re very insecure about ai coming in and ruining the training data they are trying to sell so they really put up lots of walls to ensure its “clean”
Back in the day you used to buy bulk emails that where leaked and many of then where throw aways and occasionally they had a reddit account attached to them. But google deletes inactive emails now, and all new gmail account are 2 step with required phone number. So I think we are just getting locked out now.
I post only on the specialized/my hobby subs which are very small. Never noticed my post no getting an upvote or real engagement. I highly doubt att AI knows jack shit about table top mini fig painting and how to wrench on a Samurai. The big subs I like to follow I just lurk in as they are usually toxic AF
But I see your point, I think they are going about it all wrong as they can easily ID bots. How often the post in a 24hr period\how fast they reply over time\IP sharing\etc. Somewhere in their plan the bots must have value, or did have value before the AI scrapping\training. My guess it was ad revenue which has been called out on that.
I did make that acct w/ a Proton and its been up for 3 months. If they nuke it I will just go back the forums. Old Skool.
I’m pretty much like you. I made a reddit account with proton about 6 months ago, but if this one gets closed, it’ll be the end of my story with Reddit. Seriously, it’s the peak of stupidity to target a huge number of people just because they use a certain type of email! I found out that some people made new accounts and opened them using a VPN, and their accounts were closed instantly! I really don’t understand how they think!
I use a VPN on the alt/clandestine acct, so far so good after a few months. But I only login maybe every 2 weeks to catch up on my hobby subs. Post almost nothing expect to my hobby subs.
I agree, not everyone wants to get a gmail acct or use a real acct like from work for obvious reasons. They keep shooting themselves in the foot and its almost no a surprise the stupid stunts they pull.
Thats going to do wonders for their hopes for any ad revenue gains.
Its gonna be their dead knell
without the lurkers there’s just bots, more bots, power-crazed mods, and like seven actual users.
Feels like its already that way. I got around my bans so I have 1 acct on another machine I never use. After I posted I went to check it out, naw not missing anything. Tons of reposts, AI slop, and what looks like bots trying to stir up engagement.
So nothing of value lost imo
reddit is like the majority of social media in that respect, if you do not go for a curated view (subscribed etc) it is complete trash (a reflection of society in general)
reddit still serves a purpose for me, but only for a few communities that do not exist (or do not exist well) here.
That was the reason to make the clandestine account was for the few hobby related subs that I like to keep tabs on. Otherwise you are 100% on, “All” is garbage.
I did on one of my old accounts block anyone w/ 500k post karma and all the huge subreddits and that made “All” ok. But this was in like 2018. There was also a curated list of all the spammers/cross posters/karma whores I added to the block list.
Pretty sure they prevent new accounts posts from showing up as often as others, or just straight up hide posts from new accounts these days. Especially if you signed up with proton mailz or in the web browser, vs linking your google play login to the app on a phone that’s not already flagged.
You have to try really hard to farm karma on new accounts and on my old account I could reply with simple one word response and still somehow get 4 upvotes. And I didn’t have followers or was a big figure people would remember the name of or anything. It feels like after a set time and a certain amount of karma you start showing up more.
I think they’re very insecure about ai coming in and ruining the training data they are trying to sell so they really put up lots of walls to ensure its “clean”
Back in the day you used to buy bulk emails that where leaked and many of then where throw aways and occasionally they had a reddit account attached to them. But google deletes inactive emails now, and all new gmail account are 2 step with required phone number. So I think we are just getting locked out now.
I post only on the specialized/my hobby subs which are very small. Never noticed my post no getting an upvote or real engagement. I highly doubt att AI knows jack shit about table top mini fig painting and how to wrench on a Samurai. The big subs I like to follow I just lurk in as they are usually toxic AF
But I see your point, I think they are going about it all wrong as they can easily ID bots. How often the post in a 24hr period\how fast they reply over time\IP sharing\etc. Somewhere in their plan the bots must have value, or did have value before the AI scrapping\training. My guess it was ad revenue which has been called out on that.
I did make that acct w/ a Proton and its been up for 3 months. If they nuke it I will just go back the forums. Old Skool.
I’m pretty much like you. I made a reddit account with proton about 6 months ago, but if this one gets closed, it’ll be the end of my story with Reddit. Seriously, it’s the peak of stupidity to target a huge number of people just because they use a certain type of email! I found out that some people made new accounts and opened them using a VPN, and their accounts were closed instantly! I really don’t understand how they think!
I use a VPN on the alt/clandestine acct, so far so good after a few months. But I only login maybe every 2 weeks to catch up on my hobby subs. Post almost nothing expect to my hobby subs.
I agree, not everyone wants to get a gmail acct or use a real acct like from work for obvious reasons. They keep shooting themselves in the foot and its almost no a surprise the stupid stunts they pull.
Hopefully… That dump can’t die soon enough.
It will never “die” it just will fade into irrelevance like Digg and FB. A fate worse than death imo
Let Spez shit the bed and we’ll laugh at him. 🍿