• panthera_@lemmy.today
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    3 hours ago

    If the world is switching to electric vehicles while Trump continues to promote gas vehicle, there will be no market for American vehicles except in the US and the US will fall behind in electric vehicle technology.

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    21 hours ago

    One in four?
    That’s piss poor performance compared to Scandinavia. Norway is basically at 100% now with 98%!
    In Denmark 97% of private registered cars were electric, but including businesses it drops to 80%.
    IDK why businesses are so far behind? Businesses are usually very busy claiming to be green?
    Finland and Sweden trail behind with only 47 and 43%.
    So IMO one in four means that just about everybody else is way way behind. 🙁

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      4 hours ago

      The reason is probably that electric cars are heavily subsidized in Denmark (via much lower vehicle registration tax) and those subsidies are lower for businesses.

      Subsidies for electric cars were removed in Sweden a few years ago, so I would say 43% electric sales (and rising) is very impressive.

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        1 hour ago

        those subsidies are lower for businesses.

        Yes in the form that they pay lower tax on ICE maybe.

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        6 hours ago

        Yes I am left wing myself, but goddam Scholz was a disappointment.
        Maybe AfD can wake people up to the importance of electing politicians that actually work for the people, and not for special interests. Hate and bigotry (AfD) and the 1% (CDU) have a tendency to meet.
        Best of luck to you down there in Germany, it could definitely be better.

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      10 hours ago

      Nordic and Benelux markets remained Europe’s most electrified, led by Denmark at 80.1%, followed by Finland (52.6%), the Netherlands (47.3%), Belgium (42.8%) ​and Sweden (42.6%).

      A 30% increase year on year is nothing to be sniffed at. There is substantial growth. I agree it needs to be better and faster, but still, it’s good.

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        10 hours ago

        It’s just weird coming from Denmark with 80% that 1 in 4 is the average, meaning half the countries are probably below that?
        But I guess it has to do with electric cars still being more expensive to buy, even though they are way cheaper afterwards both to charge than to buy gasoline, and in repairs.

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          4 hours ago

          It comes down to infrastructure more than anything. I’m guessing eastern EU countries haven’t invested as heavily as western countries. From the article, it sounds like anything Italy and east has minimal EV uptake. Doesn’t matter if it’s cheaper if there is nowhere to charge, or get the car serviced.

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      9 hours ago

      Businesses need range and turnaround time. Sometimes 24/7. An hour on the charger is an hour not making money.

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        9 hours ago

        Yes that is true, but drivers also need breaks, so I would think it would be mostly an issue of just planning to charge during a break.
        That may not always be possible. But for by far the most jobs, a decent EV has enough range to be able to last an entire workday.
        And for instance here even cabs are electric since some time now. And they drive all the time except breaks. But if you have a cab with 800 km range, and you drive 50 km/h in the city, the cab has more than enough juice to last an entire 8 hour shift. It’s actually 16 hours, and with slow traffic and pausing for traffic lights, I bet it can last a whole day including night.

        If it’s good enough for a taxi company, it should be good enough for almost all purposes.
        If cars are used that heavily, they are probably also cleaned regularly, my guess is when handing it over to the next driver. So I don’t think any car is truly 24/7.
        There are various breaks that can be used to charge the cars if you plan ahead.

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          9 hours ago

          You don’t have to tell me, I’m in Scandinavia. All cars are electric around me. Cabs and trucks and all.

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              8 hours ago

              My point was just to say that the economics aren’t always clear cut. There is also depreciation, fleet maintenance, capacity to handle charging, and all other sorts.