This article is basically about right-wingers getting angry about The Odyssey while the film has done very well at the box office.

Maybe some right-wing people just like getting angry when there’s really not much reason to get angry.

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    22 hours ago

    The great part about so many studies being done on this, is I can just go grab a different peer reviewed academic study every time someone doesn’t believe it…

    I already linked someone else what I was talking about.

    So I’ll give you a different study where they studied people with lesions in either area, and discovered once again that the size/health/ability of those regions correlates to political leaning.

    Specifically, we compared the political orientations of patients with frontal lobe lesions, patients with amygdala lesions and healthy control subjects. Lesion type classification analyses revealed that people with frontal lesions held more conservative (or less liberal) beliefs than those with anterior temporal lobe lesions or no lesions. Additional analyses predicting ideology by extent of damage provided convergent evidence that greater damage in the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex—but not the amygdala—was associated with greater conservatism.

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rstb/article/376/1822/20200137/31478/Toward-a-neuropsychology-of-political-orientation

    What ill never understand, is why people think literal physical changes to the brain wouldn’t correlate to political reasoning…

    What do you think pushes people to one side of the aisle or the other besides differences in our brains?

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      Ok, so first, I’ve read it but not any of the citations or any other follow up work… but that study is about people with lesions in their brain, what about people with healthy brains? Can you identify conservatives with just a scan if they don’t have a brain injury? I still doubt it, much less ‘anyone with two minutes of training’. Or maybe you mean that half (if not more) of the world population suffers some kind of brain lesion or disorder? And that sample size seems also quite small and, without really being able to actually tell, not very random (the groups with lesions are overwhelmingly white, while the control group isn’t…).

      Don’t get me wrong, I do think that conservatism is a disease/disorder. But a social, memetic one. That can’t be diagnosed or cured like physical or mental problems.

      Anyway, it doesn’t convinced me, but it doesn’t matter cause I don’t really have any use for that information since I can’t scan people’s brains, modify them, or cure injuries. But I’m sure the fascists taking ahold of the world will be (are?) very interested on this bullshit, and I won’t be surprised if they end up putting anyone with a functional prefrontal cortex down.

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        21 hours ago

        what about people with healthy brains?

        Well, I literally said it was in another comment already…

        https://lemmy.world/post/49973823/24987459

        Now, personally if someone said that, and I didn’t see it…

        I would assume it was because for some reason I couldn’t see the comments from the other person.

        So I would sign out, and then be able to see the comments.

        If you still have questions after reading that comment and that study, no worries

        Take a deep breath, remember I’m not arguing with anyone, I’m explaining scientifically repeatable experiments, and ask your questions.

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          21 hours ago

          I was just taking a look at that. Well, not the article but the actual study it links…

          Don’t get so sassy, I think asking someone not only to read a scientific article to answer to your comment but also to go to the other comments to read another is a bit too much to ask. But I’ve done it anyway… and now I’m doubting that you did read them. From this second article:

          No differences in Anterior Cingulate Cortex volume replicated between levels of conservatism - in contrast to the original study

          self-reported ideology (single item) was not a significant predictor of amygdalar volume.

          So you take a deep breath and read more carefully what you post before making bullshit assertions like ‘With like two minutes of training, anyone can identify political affiliation almost instantly from a brain scan, with over 70% accuracy…’.

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            20 hours ago

            Correct, this very much sounds like pseudo-science. I don’t even need to read the studies, all I know is that any self-respecting academic/scientist would call this out for the horseshite it is. If I didn’t know better, it’s a facist in a trenchcoat.

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                20 hours ago

                Yeah I don’t read psuedo-horseshite. Let me come back sober and I’ll read it and deconstruct it. But I really can’t be fucked because again, you’re talking shit out of your arse…

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            20 hours ago

            I think asking someone not only to read a scientific article to answer to your comment but also to go to the other comments to read another is a bit too much to ask

            Weird…

            Personally I think it’s an entitled opinion to ask the same question some one else already has and expect a bespoke answer…

            Agree to disagree I guess

            Best of luck finding someone else to answer your questions. Frankly, it doesn’t matter to me that much if you understand, I was just trying to help you, and clearly you don’t want any help.

            And don’t forget, you started with:

            Wake up, babe! New phrenology just dropped.

            I gave you plenty of chances to learn

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              Why are you acting like this? No one is asking you for your long-winded explanations. It feels like the only reason you’re giving them is so you can tell everyone else how stupid they are for not having the specific degree and experience you do.

              “I gave you plenty of chances to learn”?? You sound like a supervillain.

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                7 hours ago

                Why are you acting like this?

                Why am I upset that people refuse to believe science when it disagrees with their pre-concieved notions and quickly devolve the conversation to junior high level personal insults?

                To quote Angelica Pickles:

                If you have to ask, you’ll never know.