• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    You see… other countries don’t just have football. We have growing economies, scientific achievements, cultural achievements and politicians that are not an international embarrassment. Argentina was in constant crisis for decades, had 200% inflation, growing crime and corruption. So no, people don’t really think of Argentina with envy. Personally, I’m glad they have football to help them get through tough times but that’s because I have some friends form Argentina and I visited it couple of years ago. Most people don’t think about it at all.

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      So do we. There’s a reason the last wave of immigration, from Spain no less, to Argentina was just two generations ago. Heck even now there are 544 thousand spaniards living in argentina.

      Each time you get a vaccine remember that the syringe was invented in Argentina. If you or anyone you know needs to get a heart bypass? You guessed it, Argentina. Each time you use a pen? Also Argentina. Our current scientists are also top notch. Just to name an example, Celeste Saulo, Secretary-General of the World Meteorological Organization. Most nobel prizes in south america? Also argentina, with 5 of them.

      Are current times complicated? Yes. Will we get up? Yes, we always do.

      Vamos Argentina carajo ✊

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        (some specific type of syringe, not all syringes)

        pen - 1930

        bypass - 1970

        last Nobel prize - 1984

        So as I said, not much beyond football in the last 40 years. I wish you all the best but seriously, no one is envious.

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          Yet they are still used everywhere today. Worry not, Argentina will rise again.

          Quick question, where do you think spain would be without all of the gold they stole from America and if they weren’t in the EU?

          You also didn’t answer my other question, if there is nothing spaniards like from Argentina, why are lots of our grandparents immigrants and why are there 544.000 spanish immigrants right now? There are literally more spaniards in argentina than argentinians in spain.

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            You also didn’t answer my other question, if there is nothing spaniards like from Argentina, why are lots of our grandparents immigrants and why are there 544.000 spanish immigrants right now?

            Because about 90 years ago there was a civil war in Spain and couple of other big wars in Europe. After the war Spain was in a bad state, similar to how Argentina is today, and a lot of people emigrated looking for better life. Argentina was a popular destination because it was culturally similar and people spoke the same language. It was also more stable and welcoming to immigrants as it was looking for people to colonize it’s empty land. Isn’t that obvious?

            Quick question, where do you think spain would be without all of the gold they stole from America and if they weren’t in the EU?

            Why not go back even further? Where would Spain be if it didn’t join the Roman Empire? I’m talking about the last 40 years and you keep bringing up ancient history. It just confirms you really don’t have nothing to be proud of in the last decades. Nothing other than football. I’m not saying it to make fun of Argentina. It’s just facts. If you really think Europeans are envious of it you’re delusional. And no amount of facts will cure your delusions.

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              Nope. 544.000 is the number of immigrants today, not 90 years ago. Care to try again?

              Why not go back even further?

              Because it doesn’t make sense? I’m talking historically recent events that are very closely related to the current state of the world. It’s been barely 10 generations since Argentina gained its independence.

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                I’m talking historically recent events

                Nothing you mentioned (other than football) is recent. If you can’t figure out why people that emigrated couple of decades ago are still there I can’t help you.

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                  Nothing you mentioned (other than football) is recent.

                  Recent =/= historically recent.

                  If you can’t figure out why people that emigrated couple of decades ago are still there I can’t help you.

                  My man, someone that immigrated 90 years ago would most likely be over a 100 years old. Does it really hurt that much that over half a million spaniards chose Argentina over Spain?

                  Don’t be so obtuse. I don’t want to use the G word.

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                    Does it really hurt that much that over half a million spaniards chose Argentina over Spain?

                    They probably move so they to celebrate World Cups real hard. They envy the passion for football Argentinians have.