• MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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    Could this be due to climate change?

    “It’s still a topic that I think we haven’t quite reached scientific consensus yet.”

    What a maroon.

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      You misunderstood, he was saying there isn’t scientific consensus on how climate change is affecting ocean temperatures going from a La niña to an El niño isn’t unheard of but this huge of a swing is. But we don’t know how climate change is making this happen. But we do know that climate change is causing this

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          It really is badly expressed… if you skip the paragraph sandwiched between your two quotes…

          "Could this be due to climate change?

          Johnson said that, while there have been fewer neutral years in the Niño 3.4 region, and there have been bigger swings between El Niños and La Niñas, it’s not clear if or how climate change could be playing a role..

          “It’s still a topic that I think we haven’t quite reached scientific consensus yet.”

          Indigo.

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    wtf is an El Niño?

    ridiculous that this article that mentions the term like 30 times doesn’t define it

    edit: holy shit lmao i haven’t been piled like this since I moved from reddit, I’m sorry for being one of today’s unlucky 10k!! ahh!!!

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      It’s the fifth paragraph…

      In order to be considered an El Niño, temperatures in that zone need to be 0.5 C above the average.

      And then five paragraphs later they even explain it more.

      El Niño and La Niña are part of a larger, natural cyclical cycle called the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO), which occurs in a specific part of the Pacific Ocean.

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        Neither of those quotes explain what it is. They just explain how El Nino is defined and that it’s part of a “cyclical cycle(?)”

        My layman’s understanding is that one makes summers wetter with more severe storms and the other makes it drier during summer.

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          Those are the effects of the cycle. But those definitions are literally exactly what they are. El Niño is when the pacific is °0.5c above average

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      I’m wondering where in the world you live to have somehow managed to get through life dodging El Niño. Not only does the world discuss it every few years because of the cycle, it’s something everyone understands because it’s taught in schools.

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        If I hadn’t lived in America for 4 years (and my sister having to do a presentation on it), this last year would be the only time it has crossed my radar.

        El Nino has (imo) always been an Americas thing. I don’t think it has ever been significant enough to touch the news cycle in the UK.
        And even now, I don’t know if my awareness has picked it up due to the UK news cycle or due to the US-centralism of so many social media sites.

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        Might not be an American and have more interest in non-weather things.

        As an American who spends more time outside than in, I find it odd how we think we are the center of the News and the definition of schools.

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          Check out American Defaultism. It’s what you’re describing.

          But back onto the cycle…

          America cops it. Their droughts and hurricane seasons are literally fuelled by the cycle .Hell, the last bad event a Need For Speed car was named after it.

          Countries far north or south of the equatorial line obviously it’s less, as with the West Indian and Mediterranean, but even then, itheyre still impacted pretty bad in their own way.

          I dunno, I’ve lived around this planet a lot and even in Iceland it’s common knowledge.

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      the video in the article does a great job of explaining it, but of course not everybody can or wants to watch the video.

      the video said that El Niño is when the ocean between south american and australia heats up by at least 0.5ºC above long term averages, and can cause warmer weather over the next many months, in this case through the end of 2026 and into 2027. it said that they expect the average temp to be above 2ºC higher than long term averages. it also said that wildfire season in canada would not be affected by it, but wildfire season in australia, which is around december 2026, could be especially bad.

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      I’m guessing you are either pretty young or a result of the American education system?

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      Calm down dude, it’s a very common term for a sort of “climate cycle” that alternates with “La Niña” years.

      If you’re so pressed that you can write an overly aggressive comment, then you can look it up too.