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modem_down@mastodon.social to Lemmy Support@lemmy.ml · 10 days ago

Why do only SOME updates reach Lemmy from Mastodon?

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Why do only SOME updates reach Lemmy from Mastodon?

modem_down@mastodon.social to Lemmy Support@lemmy.ml · 10 days ago
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@lemmy_support Why do only SOME updates reach Lemmy from Mastodon?

I posted to Lemmy from Mastodon: https://lemmy.ml/post/49566110

A Lemmy user’s comment on that post reached me on Mastodon. I replied from Mastodon & my reply showed up on Lemmy, as hoped.
https://lemmy.ml/post/49566110/26507040

Later, I tried to reply from Mastodon to other Lemmy comments on the same post. Why didn’t these replies reach Lemmy? https://mastodon.social/@modem/_down/116907072443986550

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    @db0 Thanks! Based on your explanation:

    - My original post from Mastodon was to a Lemmy community hosted on the lemmy.ml instance: https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy

    - My reply to @gary_host_laptop showed in that community because their Fediverse account is ALSO on the lemmy.ml instance.

    - My reply to @sem did not show in that community because their Fediverse account is NOT on the lemmy.ml instance.

    BUT

    Why then did my later reply to @grandel NOT show at !asklemmy@lemmy.ml ? https://mastodon.social/@modem/_down/116907056512323326

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      10 days ago

      Hm, maybe federation failed?

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        @db0 Yes, looks like it did fail. It would be good to figure out how/why, in order to learn what users or devs should do to avoid those failures.

        Another reason your initial explanation seems not to be correct (though I’m still grateful for it!) is that even though your Fediverse account is NOT hosted on the Lemmy.ml instance, my reply to you from Mastodon DID show up on Lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.ml/post/50110148

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          No it doesn’t seem to have reached lemmy.ml on my end

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            Ah wait, you mean my first reply. This might be because you pinged lemmy.ml users in it. Also note that embedded images are also broken (i.e you won’t see the image I embedded on my previous reply)

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              @db0 Thanks, let me test whether mentioning a Lemmy.ml user (Hello, @lemmy_support !) causes this message to show up at Lemmy.ml

              It would explain why even though my first reply to in this thread DID show up on Lemmy.ml, ~~my reply to your second message in this thread did NOT show up there~~.

              UPDATE: my reply to your 2nd message HAS now shown up on lemmy.ml . I guess it got caught in a random federation delay. So, now we still don’t know why my message to Grandel didn’t show there. 🤔

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                If the update showed after you pinged/mentioned the .ml community, I would suspect that it’s the mention that reinforced the missing federation.

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                  @db0 You mean that pinging a user from the target Lemmy instance might force that instance to pull in intermediate messages from the same thread? Yes, that could be a factor.

                  Still doesn’t explain why my reply to Grendel didn’t reach Lemmy.ml, though.

                  I’m not pinging anyone from Lemmy.ml this time, so see what happens.

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                    Also, you didn’t just ping just any user. You pinged the community handle.

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