• JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I tend to avoid travelling to the US

    When I’m there I tip in some places (where there’s actual service involved for example. I’m not tipping anyone for literally picking something or a shelf, scanning it and handing it off to me on a counter) but definitely not 20%.

    Regarding the tax it’s stupid but it might be less annoying to people because it’s not a choice. Paying the tax is not a problem. It exists for a good reason. What is a problem/stupid is that it’s hidden. That is not the case for tipping. And no I don’t want to further exploit or fuck workers. Quite the contrary. That’s why I advocate that it should be changed and that’s why if people don’t tip it might change.

    If everyone stopped tipping tomorrow I guarantee you wages would change very quickly after. Yes it would hurt workers momentarily but its hints would improve after. Continuing to tip is just maintaining the status quo. You can keep waiting for things to change but they won’t as they haven’t for a long time. In fact it’s literally only getting worse with top % increasing.

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      1 day ago

      I tend to avoid travelling to the US

      Good. Stay home.

      When I’m there I tip in some places

      Good, but

      but definitely not 20%.

      Not great. Tbh if you can afford to travel internationally at all you’re doing so much better than every one of those servers. Even if your work is paying for it (and don’t act like they aren’t paying for your meals if they are sending you international, you could tip well on your boss’ dollar, like American business people do on their boss’ dollar when they come in).

      Regarding the tax it’s stupid but it might be less annoying to people because it’s not a choice.

      Neither is tipping if you ask those that rely on tipping. Boss doesn’t give a shit, he’ll tell you it is optional. You want to side with the exploiter? That’s certainly a choice, hope you don’t think you’re a good person though.

      What is a problem/stupid is that it’s hidden. That is not the case for tipping

      Oh so you admit tipping isn’t “hidden” and you know you’re supposed to, interesting. Sounds like you can figure it out, why are you complaining? Of course increasing the prices 20% and funneling it to the workers is better for them, they wouldn’t complain, but by your own admission you don’t tip that much, you’d be paying more. If you’re so about the worker why don’t you tip well without it being compulsory?

      In fact imo 20% isn’t enough, increase the prices 30% or even 40% and give the worker that at your expense. Howboutdat?

      If everyone stopped eating out entirely tomorrow I guarantee you wages would change very quickly after. Yes it would hurt your appetite momentarily but its hints would improve after. Continuing to eat out is just maintaining the status quo. You can keep pretending things will magically change but they won’t as they haven’t for a long time. In fact it’s literally only getting worse with top % increasing.

      FTFY.

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        21 hours ago

        I give up discussing with you as it’s worthless and a waste of time. You can’t even understand half what I say and you make weird assumptions all the time

        The whole “if you support workers so much why don’t you give them all your money” is just so stupid I had to call it here. It’s the equivalent of “if you want to support homelessness and orphans and abandoned pets why don’t you have them all in your home??? Gotchaaaa” which just tells me you have the mental capacity of a child.

        Fix your backwards country and then you can stop being mad at people you don’t tip

        Bye

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          19 hours ago

          It’s more like never giving the homeless a couple bucks when they’re begging, considering tipping is giving the waiter a couple bucks when they serve you food that seems a more apt comparison. Nobody told you to take your waiter home.

          Bye, stay in your country, can’t you see the “out of order” sign on our door? Gtfo.