Sure, change the system. But as it stands now, this is the system, and unless you’re able to time machine back to before the world cup visitors got here in time to change it, then this is the system you’re visiting and you need to adapt. Just as I would need to adapt to your culture if I went wherever you live or I’d be the asshole, same goes here.
I find extremely amusing that if I were to choose not to partake of a custom that even you find controversial, I would be the asshole here.
The article says that some businesses are adding a 20% service surcharge. It seems to me that “the system” could very well be fixed, they just chose not to until they were forced to do so.
Some people here are complaining about that as well, they say it has to be on the menu price, some “would rather it be on the menu price, but that is better.”
If I had my guess it’s because “The EU™” doesn’t have an entirely homogenous opinion on tipping themselves, closer in opinion to each other though they may be. Point is though some consider that surcharge “not fixed.”
I’m also wondering if they’re only adding the surcharge for Euros which would be so funny. In any case the second you guys leave that goes back to normal, you’ve “fixed” nothing.
In any case the second you guys leave that goes back to normal, you’ve “fixed” nothing.
If you guys decide to go back to your savage ways, sure.
The service industry is dying in the US anyway. It’s pretty much all chains serving the same frozen food bought from a handful of suppliers. Americans eat out less than ever, and it’s not only because tipping, although you lot sure love to complain about it while doing nothing to fix it.
So if you would like to continue to alienate the few captive customers that the country still has, i.e. tourists, please, by all means, do it.
The worker decides nothing. They quit and the boss hires another ex convict with a drug problem, if they get lucky they’ll break out but more likely the quitter will end up at another restaurant hoping there’s no Europeans. Your idealism is commendable, but naïve.
Though you’re not entirely wrong, covid killed off a lot of small restaurants who couldn’t afford to stay open and were pretty much the last bastion of “local businesses” in the country. Pretty sad imo, I’ve long been a “shop local” proponent myself. Though youshould be happy about that because those chains mostly offer “a living wage” (debatable, especially in this economy, but they don’t rely on tips). So there you go, go eat there instead of the relatively few local spots that did survive but rely on tips, why do you have to go to the tipping spots if you’re so against them? Have a backbone and sacrifice for your ideals.
Yes, by all means, stay out of the place if you can’t respect how it works and have to shit on the poor worker to feel morally superior, like an absolute smeghead.
Yes, by all means, stay out of the place if you can’t respect how it works and have to shit on the poor worker to feel morally superior, like an absolute smeghead.
No worries about this, I will.
I hope one day you understand that your arguments could be used to justify any kind of ongoing labor abuse. But anyway, when the industry finally dies in the US, I won’t be sad about it.
I find extremely amusing that if I were to choose not to partake of a custom that even you find controversial, I would be the asshole here.
The article says that some businesses are adding a 20% service surcharge. It seems to me that “the system” could very well be fixed, they just chose not to until they were forced to do so.
You are welcome, I guess.
Some people here are complaining about that as well, they say it has to be on the menu price, some “would rather it be on the menu price, but that is better.”
If I had my guess it’s because “The EU™” doesn’t have an entirely homogenous opinion on tipping themselves, closer in opinion to each other though they may be. Point is though some consider that surcharge “not fixed.”
I’m also wondering if they’re only adding the surcharge for Euros which would be so funny. In any case the second you guys leave that goes back to normal, you’ve “fixed” nothing.
If you guys decide to go back to your savage ways, sure.
The service industry is dying in the US anyway. It’s pretty much all chains serving the same frozen food bought from a handful of suppliers. Americans eat out less than ever, and it’s not only because tipping, although you lot sure love to complain about it while doing nothing to fix it.
So if you would like to continue to alienate the few captive customers that the country still has, i.e. tourists, please, by all means, do it.
The worker decides nothing. They quit and the boss hires another ex convict with a drug problem, if they get lucky they’ll break out but more likely the quitter will end up at another restaurant hoping there’s no Europeans. Your idealism is commendable, but naïve.
Though you’re not entirely wrong, covid killed off a lot of small restaurants who couldn’t afford to stay open and were pretty much the last bastion of “local businesses” in the country. Pretty sad imo, I’ve long been a “shop local” proponent myself. Though you should be happy about that because those chains mostly offer “a living wage” (debatable, especially in this economy, but they don’t rely on tips). So there you go, go eat there instead of the relatively few local spots that did survive but rely on tips, why do you have to go to the tipping spots if you’re so against them? Have a backbone and sacrifice for your ideals.
Yes, by all means, stay out of the place if you can’t respect how it works and have to shit on the poor worker to feel morally superior, like an absolute smeghead.
No worries about this, I will.
I hope one day you understand that your arguments could be used to justify any kind of ongoing labor abuse. But anyway, when the industry finally dies in the US, I won’t be sad about it.