Photographs weren’t exactly common 160 years ago, hence the difficulty.
If you can find an image of american slavery that depicts the whips used in use, I welcome it (well kinda, I’d much prefer a non-graphic image of what’s used in Iran, though I couldn’t find that either). Otherwise this is the only relevant image I could find.
Weird sources. Who has killed more people through whipping?
Edit: funny how the Iranian whipping victim was nsfw, yet you chose a sfw whipping victim from the Americans, despite them whipping hundreds of thousands of people to death.
Amnesty international and CARLI are about as reputable as sources can get.
There are no stats that* answer that, from Iran or the atlantic slave trade.
Unless that link is broken, that image depicts an american whip, not a whipping victim. edit: If you mean why didn’t I include photos of an american slavery whipping victim, there are no photographs of slave punishment I could find that have a legible image of the whip, which is the important info here. Photography 160 years ago was not great at capturing motion.
there were approximately 10 million slaves in the US, total. Although I can’t find exact numbers, if we go by the reasonable estimates from clrn we can see that between 1 in 20 to 1 in 11 slaves died of the euphemistic “conditions of slavery”, so it would be pretty damned impressive for the US to have whipped “hundreds of thousands” of people to death - certainly some were, and even more were simply beaten to death or chained and starved, but please stop making up bullshit about historical tragidies to further your own political narrative.
Studies suggest an excess mortality of 15-20% due to conditions directly related to enslavement. If we apply this mortality rate to the estimated 3-4 million enslaved Africans brought to the Americas, we arrive at an estimated 450,000 to 800,000 deaths.
It’s an extremely famous image - but one that does not show the whip that was used, which was the whole point.
Those are scars from someone with keloid disorder, which visually appear far more severe but given he is not dead were likely done with the same instrument as I showed above.
If you can find a relevant image from american slavery, or a non graphic image of the whips used in iranian corporal punishment, I welcome it! I looked quite hard and could find neither. Until then, please keep in mind I’m not trying to make the point you’re implying I’m trying to make.
I’m amazed with the way you can so confidently state such BS…
American slave whip:
source
Iranian whipping footage (Graphic, NSFL):
They use exactly the same implement.
Where is the graphic depiction of american slavery? Can only find that for Iran?
Photographs weren’t exactly common 160 years ago, hence the difficulty.
If you can find an image of american slavery that depicts the whips used in use, I welcome it (well kinda, I’d much prefer a non-graphic image of what’s used in Iran, though I couldn’t find that either). Otherwise this is the only relevant image I could find.
(edit: spelling)
Weird sources. Who has killed more people through whipping?
Edit: funny how the Iranian whipping victim was nsfw, yet you chose a sfw whipping victim from the Americans, despite them whipping hundreds of thousands of people to death.
Amnesty international and CARLI are about as reputable as sources can get.
There are no stats that* answer that, from Iran or the atlantic slave trade.
Unless that link is broken, that image depicts an american whip, not a whipping victim. edit: If you mean why didn’t I include photos of an american slavery whipping victim, there are no photographs of slave punishment I could find that have a legible image of the whip, which is the important info here. Photography 160 years ago was not great at capturing motion.
there were approximately 10 million slaves in the US, total. Although I can’t find exact numbers, if we go by the reasonable estimates from clrn we can see that between 1 in 20 to 1 in 11 slaves died of the euphemistic “conditions of slavery”, so it would be pretty damned impressive for the US to have whipped “hundreds of thousands” of people to death - certainly some were, and even more were simply beaten to death or chained and starved, but please stop making up bullshit about historical tragidies to further your own political narrative.
Literally took me 10 seconds. It’s obviously far worse than the red marks in your photo. That’s why you didn’t post. Be real.
https://www.npca.org/articles/10673-parks-group-demands-truth-history-of-slavery-cannot-be-erased-from-our
It’s an extremely famous image - but one that does not show the whip that was used, which was the whole point.
Those are scars from someone with keloid disorder, which visually appear far more severe but given he is not dead were likely done with the same instrument as I showed above.
If you can find a relevant image from american slavery, or a non graphic image of the whips used in iranian corporal punishment, I welcome it! I looked quite hard and could find neither. Until then, please keep in mind I’m not trying to make the point you’re implying I’m trying to make.