• mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    22 hours ago

    Most people at least those vocal on lemmy claims that it’s only about Israel colonial interests. It is about both

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      22 hours ago

      I guess it can be a bit confusing considering Israel is basically a vassal state of the US, but at times it can be hard to tell who is the tiger and whose is holding it by the tail.

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      18 hours ago

      I disagree. This is spin with no possibility of pay off. It’s still all about Israel weakening Iran and annexing Lebanon.

      And the obscene ammount of blackmail generated by Epstein and Maxwell of course.

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        17 hours ago

        Why the blackmail did not make Trump go back completely to full scale war on Iran or the allow isrsel to officially annex the whole west bank and abolish the PA?

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              15 hours ago

              Lol no, that’s just what they told the orange diatraction and the goons. This is a slow and methodical land grab.

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                16 hours ago

                The israeli leaders already expressed that they want full scale war resumptions now and never wanted negociations at all. It would be easy to get it if it was all about blackmailing

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                  16 hours ago

                  The negotiations have been a joke. Even if they could agree on anything, Israel won’t let them happen. But full scale war is just not an option. Politically or militarily. So we get this siege/stalemate. America keeps Iran busy while Israel goes full speed on the annexation.

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                    15 hours ago

                    But full scale war is just not an option. Politically or militarily.

                    You are proving my point. Israel want the full scale war to continue. The USA is still not returning to full war because like you said a full scale war is a bad option for the USA. Taco once again backtracked about occupying Kharg Island. Trump is an idiot the yesterday attacks was not done because Israel asked it but because Trump again thought doing it would give the USA more leverage in the negotiations, he is wrong.

                    The reason the stalemate exists is because Iran will not give up it’s right to get compensations from the usa and removal of sanctions and the usa regardless of who in charge would not want to remove sanctions because it is the cornerstone of the usa imperialist strategy.