• SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today
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    16 hours ago

    This just comes off as bigotry.

    You are the bigot. I am defending reality from your death cult.

    There’s nothing unintelligent with being religious or the lack thereof it.

    Yes, there is. You accept claims without evidence. You pretend magic is real. You ignore blatant contradictions in the bible. You pretend hate is love. You lack critical thinking skills. It’s dangerous.

    Yes, I, like the majority of humanity, believe in the supernatural.

    Citation needed.

    There’s nothing wrong with that.

    Yes there is, you selfish moron. There is only one truth. “Supernatural” means not real. Stop believing in things that are not real. Beliefs drive our actions. You are actively making the world worse by pretending magic is real. You support the same death cult that ruined my life and is killing more people every day.

    It is wrong to be wrong. Grow up.

    If you’re referring to your specific upbringing within a family in the Southern United States within a Baptist denomination as the “death cult”, then no, I am not defending that.

    All the abrahamic faiths are death cults. Yahweh is a death god. He solves problems of his own making with needless violence. Christians worship a zombie savior, drink his blood, eat his flesh. Belief in an afterlife devalues our real lives. My parents think they are going to heaven when they die. They don’t care when human life is lost, they pretend the dead are better off that way.

    And you are defending it. Magical thinking is intolerable.

    It sounds like they didn’t even teach you anything about “believe or you’ll perish” but didn’t give you anything to believe in.

    Don’t make assumptions. Ask questions. Kids are dying for this.

    This is a misconception. Jesus in the New Testament talks about hell and warns of impending doom, in addition to Revelation (more than the old testament).

    It was their interpretation, the church’s and my parents’. How do you know they were wrong and you are right? There is no standard, no way to verify. You already normalized delusion, and I was abused for it. There is no undoing that.

    The least you can do is stop spreading this cancer.

    Your false beliefs are a threat to all life.

    While the Old Testament also demonstrates God’s patience and love, teaches you to love your neighbour, etc.

    Dumb fuck: “do what I say or suffer” IS NOT LOVE. God is not patient in the bible, he’s impulsive, cruel, and really fucking stupid. “I made man bad. I flood world. Oops, man still bad. Oh well.” What an idiot.

    Fuck you for choosing death. There is blood on your hands, murderer.

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      9 hours ago

      You are the bigot. I am defending reality from your death cult.

      So I am a bigot simply for being a Christian? Way to make a word lose it’s meaning…

      Yes, there is. You accept claims without evidence.

      No, I don’t. There is substantial historical documentarg evidence which gives reason to believe that the Apostles believed what they saw.

      Citation needed

      https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/

      Only 16% of global population is religiously unaffiliated according to this study. There’s also a possible percentage of them who aren’t complete Atheists.

      Yes there is, you selfish moron. There is only one truth. “Supernatural” means not real.

      Citation needed.

      You support the same death cult that ruined my life and is killing more people every day.

      No, your parents and these Stowe people ruined your life. They just so happened to use Christianity as an excuse for abuse. In the same way, many religious positions, including atheism, have been used as an excuse for abuse. Many people don’t do that. I am sure many people who suffered under communist anti religious campaigns may view atheism as a death cult.

      Yahweh is a death god. He solves problems of his own making with needless violence.

      Punishing evil isn’t “needless violence”.

      Christians worship a zombie savior, drink his blood, eat his flesh. Belief in an afterlife devalues our real lives. My parents think they are going to heaven when they die. They don’t care when human life is lost, they pretend the dead are better off that way.

      If the afterlife is real, then yes, this “real” life is of less value. With the rest, I don’t see how this is a problem. I, too, can uncharitably frame atheists as “people who don’t believe there is a solid difference between right and wrong, and believe you can do whatever you like in this life to anybody because nothing matters and we’re all going to be blown up by the sun”. You can frame any ideology in such a manner. It’s not constructive, and such a framing doesn’t prove or disprove that ideology, my framing doesn’t disprove atheism or their arguments.

      The least you can do is stop spreading this cancer.

      I am going to spread it further. I have helped bring a few of God’s children to Him and hopefully will help bring a good few more, if God wills it.

      Don’t make assumptions. Ask questions. Kids are dying for this.

      You said you only believed because you didn’t want to go to hell, but didn’t really believe before then.

      There is no standard, no way to verify.

      It’s literally in the Bible. Examples of God’s love and patience are visible in the Old Testament and examples of God’s wrath and justice are visible in the New Testament.

      Dumb fuck: “do what I say or suffer” IS NOT LOVE. God is not patient in the bible, he’s impulsive, cruel, and really fucking stupid. “I made man bad. I flood world. Oops, man still bad. Oh well.” What an idiot.

      If God had the same amount of patience as the most patient man on earth, He’d have destroyed man to begin with and tried again. You and I wouldn’t be here.

      Fuck you for choosing death. There is blood on your hands, murderer.

      Οἶδα τίς ἀληθῶς ἐνθάδε λαλεῖ.

      Ἆρα τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ κράτιστον ὃ δύνασαι νῦν ποιῆσαι, ἵνα ποιήσῃς με δοκεῖν φονέα εἶναι, μετὰ πάντα ὅσα πεποίηκάς μοι; Σατανᾶ, Λούκιφερ, ἢ ὅπως σεαυτὸν καλεῖς, τί ἐπιχειρεῖς ποιῆσαι τὴν ταλαίπωρον ταύτην ψυχὴν τοῦ χρήστου τοῦ δικτύου εἰπεῖν; Οἶδα ὅτι πάντα ἃ πάσχει οὗτος ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἐκ σοῦ ἐστιν. Οἶδας ὅτι φέρω ἐν τῇ διανοίᾳ μου τὴν εἰκόνα τοῦ μέλλοντός σοι γενέσθαι, καὶ προσδοκῶ ἐκείνην τὴν ἡμέραν. Τὸ δὲ γελοιότατον ἐστὶν ὅτι οὐδὲ ὑπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ νικᾷ, ἀλλ᾽ ὑπὸ Ἀρχαγγέλου. Σὺ δὲ φύλλον εἶ μόνον ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀνέμου φερόμενον. Χαῖρε διαφθείρων τοὺς βίους τῶν ἀνθρώπων· σὺ εἶ ἡ μάστιξ τῆς γῆς. Οὐδεμίαν ἐξουσίαν ἔχεις ἐπ᾽ ἐμέ.

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        So I am a bigot simply for being a Christian?

        Correct. You support homophobia, rape, genocide, misogyny, and more. Or do you not know what “christ” is?

        Way to make a word lose it’s meaning…

        You are a bigot. Way to hide from valid criticism.

        No, I don’t. There is substantial historical documentarg evidence which gives reason to believe that the Apostles believed what they saw.

        Right. They believed what they said, maybe, if we can trust any of the ancient texts.

        But believing something doesn’t make it true, believing something is not evidence of that thing.

        Some fellas flew some planes into some buildings awhile back. So you believe in allah? They DIED for their beliefs.

        Citation needed.

        You need “natural” defined? There is only one truth, otherwise we could not communicate at all. “Natural” encompasses everything. “Supernatural” refers to bullshit that doesn’t exist. Show evidence of your “supernatural” claim, please.

        No, your parents and these Stowe people ruined your life.

        Using the same logic as you. Using the same book as you. Using the same selfish deflection as you.

        We will be relieved when you are gone, death cultist.

        They just so happened to use Christianity as an excuse for abuse.

        That’s what the bible is for. It’s a collection of stories that normalize abuse.

        In the same way, many religious positions, including atheism

        Atheism is not a religion, cockwheel. It’s lack of belief in any god.

        have been used as an excuse for abuse.

        But the bible explicitly commands and excuses abuse. The bible teaches hate as love. It’s scary that you can’t tell the difference.

        Many people don’t do that.

        And no one who believes in magic can be trusted, because they lack the ability to reason, they deflect accountability.

        As you are now doing. Shitbag.

        I am sure many people who suffered under communist anti religious campaigns may view atheism as a death cult.

        Atheism is not a cult, it is a lack of belief. It does not have a central figure. It does not imply any other beliefs or attitudes.

        Christianity is a cult to Yahweh the death god. The abrahamic faiths are all death cults.

        Punishing evil isn’t “needless violence”.

        Yes it is, if he is omnipotent, because the evil was also needless. He chose to make it.

        He flooded the world even though he knew it wouldn’t work? How many babies did he drown for no reason?

        If the afterlife is real, then yes, this “real” life is of less value.

        DEATH CULTIST. Reporting you for hate speech, terrorism.

        With the rest, I don’t see how this is a problem.

        Because you are brainwashed.

        I, too, can uncharitably frame atheists as "people who don’t believe there is a solid difference between right and wrong

        But that’s a lie, because atheism says nothing about morality. Atheism is lack of one belief.

        and believe you can do whatever you like

        Do you need a violent god to hold your leash? Then you’re not a good person.

        Many atheists do good because good should be done. Morality is necessary for sustainable society.

        Lying is immoral, and god is a lie.

        in this life to anybody because nothing matters and we’re all going to be blown up by the sun".

        Fuck you for lying. Atheism is lack of belief in a god. I personally believe our experiences here are invaluable precisely because there is no afterlife.

        This is all we have, and dumbfucks like you are wasting it on bullshit.

        You can frame any ideology in such a manner.

        Atheism is not an ideology. Atheism is simply “I have not been convinced that god exists.”

        And that is supported by evidence, whereas your miserable death cult is not.

        Don’t make false equivalences.

        It’s not constructive, and such a framing doesn’t prove or disprove that ideology, my framing doesn’t disprove atheism or their arguments.

        Evidence does.

        I am going to spread it further.

        Murderer.

        I have helped bring a few of God’s children to Him and hopefully will help bring a good few more, if God wills it.

        You lied to people at the expense of their lives.

        Fuck you for choosing death.

        You said you only believed because you didn’t want to go to hell, but didn’t really believe before then.

        Wrong, dipshit. I didn’t want to disappoint my parents, so I swallowed their bullshit.

        I did believe it, as much as anyone can, considering there’s no actual reason to.

        You are pretending. Coward.

        It’s literally in the Bible.

        But the bible is demonstrably untrue. It cannot be the standard.

        Examples of God’s love and patience are visible in the Old Testament and examples of God’s wrath and justice are visible in the New Testament.

        Murder and rape are love? Fuck you, death cultist.

        If God had the same amount of patience as the most patient man on earth, He’d have destroyed man to begin with and tried again. You and I wouldn’t be here.

        He literally did destroy man and try again. The flood?

        You and I are here because god does not exist.

        If he did, he would empower us to get along. But I can’t get along with lying murderers.

        There is no god.

        Your bullshit is killing real people.

        Fuck you for choosing death.