• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    This is like Jeffrey Dahmer bemoaning murderers, like Donald Trump complaining about the rich, like Mark Zuckerberg bitching about social networks

    The Catholic church is filthy rich, unbelievably wealthy, and sitting on many generations of stolen wealth.

    They own 170 million acres of blood-soaked land across the world, more than any other organization on the planet.

    Sadly, they are still tax-free in much of the world. God knows what they are really up to

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      So what should they do? Selling all that real estate to billionaires so that they can test down thousands of years of history and replace it with malls and parking lots? Also, the church represented different stuff in different moments of history, it wasn’t all that bad

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      So? One can be part of the issue whilst addressing it. He’s an influential person, would you rather have him not say anything about it?

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        12 hours ago

        So? He’s a piece of shit, and his church is evil incarnate.

        How about he starts paying taxes like the rest of Earth? You may be fine with thieving rapists sharing their opinion about other thieving rapists, that’s your right.

        And it’s my right to point out what they are and what they do.

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          8 hours ago

          This is the most TikTok/Instagram politics comment I’ve ever read on here blud. The world is not black and white. If you live in America why don’t you sell everything and go back to the UK since it is all stolen land?

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              You really lack the ability to understand that not all priests are pedophiles bro. Your logic is like “All killers drink water, therefore water is a problem and must be abolished”. The non sequitur is huge! About the link you sent, of course they will have spend money on a lawyer, but that’s because 1. a process is needed to find out if an allegation is actually true and 2. Everyone has the right to defend themselves in court because, again, a process and an investigation are needed to find out the truth. The worst dictatorship is the one where alleged criminals don’t have rights even during trial and before getting a sentence.

              Also, thanks to Pope Francis, if a priest is a pedophile, it will have to get processed by the state and not by the Vatican. The times when pedos in the church just got sentenced to 5 years isolated into monastery have ended in most countries in the world

              This is who I am defending. You can use a translator

              https://www.agensir.it/quotidiano/2025/6/16/poverta-in-italia-caritas-277-775-persone-assistite-nel-2024-626-in-10-anni-in-aumento-working-poor-e-anziani/

              https://www.fides.org/it/stats

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            7 hours ago

            It depends on their location.

            In USA, they don’t pay property taxes, with more benefits than any secular non-profits.

            Property taxes are how many states fund their schools, infrastructure, and more.

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            12 hours ago

            So?

            I’m speaking up. Things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up, right?

            He’s fucking vile.

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              You’re not speaking up. You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up?

              Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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                You’re not speaking up.

                Wrong!

                You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up.

                Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can’t silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is… and believe me, it’s not “trying to silence the Pope”.

                You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up?

                You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this?

                Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.

                His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you’d like to, don’t let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations.

                It’s funny

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                  Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go:

                  I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying.

                  No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining.

                  And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself.