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    well, the world country hate index has China first, US second and Russia third. China is working to change their image, donations of solar panels in Africa etc , Russia and the US are active in making their world image worse and in making the world worse.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-hated-country

    I assume with all these shenanigans, we’ll see the US vault to the top.

    but as an Australian, I’d agree with Spain, The US and Russia are now our enemies, China is not in anyway an ally of course but more like Vietnam etc

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    Not just peace but business in general. The man is fucking famous for bankrupting everything he touches for crying out loud

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        One military historian’s analysis I’ve seen on this issue posits that the fact the US joined in on Israel’s strike last year (Twelve-Day War) put them in a position where they’d be involved in this action too, like it or not. The logic goes as follows:

        When Israel bombed Iranian nuclear facilities in June, Iran didn’t actively treat the US as a party of that war. Sure, the US did intercept missiles aimed at Israel, but that’s what you’d expect from a defensive partner, so long as they didn’t actually join the offensive.

        But on June 22nd, the US did join the offensive and directly bombed targets in Iran. Then and only then did Iran also target a US base, because now they had become an aggressor. The lesson Iran would draw from this is that, for any action Israel took, the US would possibly (likely, even) join in. As the historian put it:

        Remember, the fellow getting bombed does not get to carefully inspect the flag painted on the bomber: stuff blows up and to some degree the party being attacked has to rapidly guess who is attacking them.

        Accordingly, any Israeli attack might result in counterattacks also preemptively targeting US bases, since it’s plausible that they would be part of this offensive - whether now or later doesn’t matter. This means that the US, in turn, would be involved in any war Israel starts. If Netanyahu informs the US of a planned attack, it’s no longer just a matter of Trump being his buddy, but a strategic necessity to participate and try to make the attack as decisive as possible to minimise the response.

        Of course, the Twelve-Day War participation could be justified by the worry over nuclear proliferation due to Iran stockpiling enriched uranium. According to the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran had upheld their end of the Iran Nuclear Deal and frozen its nuke program in 2015 in exchange for a limited lifting of sanctions but resumed it after the US withdrew from that deal in 2018.

        That withdrawal from “the worst deal ever” had been a campaign promise already, but the actual announcement that the US would no longer comply with the plan happened a week after unsubstantiated claims that Iran had violated the terms, which were made by…

        Netanyahu.

        So yes, Netanyahu probably did goad Trump into reneging on a deal without an actual alternative plan, laying the groundwork to later say “See, we need to stop them from the consequences of your actions”, in turn putting the US in a position where joining an Israeli attack on Iran became a strategic necessity.


        Fucking supremacist fucks fucking everyone else for their fucked up delusions. Trump is a malicious idiot, but the greater threat are the malicious manipulators that know just how to pull his strings.

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        Unnecessary distinction. Trump is choosing to do all of this. A lot of people probably have a lot of dirt on him, but he’s still making his own choices.

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          Given his current level of lucidity, I doubt he’s capable of independent thought as he still has some hangers-on and aides who appear incompetent but actually have plans of their own, pushing the bastard to approve of their ideas. That he is also but a product of a game long played by vested interests: Roger Stone, the anti-climate Mercers, the Christofascists behind Project 2025, the oligarchy in general, and of course the Chinese and Russians who’d found him the perfect agent of influence.

          He’s so fucking smug, so convinced to be winning but is truly isolating and destroying the US from the inside and indirectly benefiting the new hegemonies realigning the world order.

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        I think we’ve reached the point in geopolitics where there’s half-a-dozen hands pulling on any one person’s strings.

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      We also inspired the top-troglodyte who sparked WW2 with our treatment of indigenous people and the treatment of migrants at the Southern Border.

      And then hired a bunch of the Nazis after WW2, like the first head of NASA who admitted to using forced labor and engineered (some of? all of?) the rockets shot at Britain.

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    I used to joke about my children having to fight in the “Trump Wars” during his first term. Then he got reelected. It’s not funny anymore.

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    Is Trump actually taller than Putin? I never cared about height but I know in political photo ops that’s a big deal.

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      Putin is notoriously short and Trump is around 6" and he also wears lifts. Trump is huge compared to Putin.

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      I think they all see it, but are scared to say it out loud in case he gets activated. Like when you see youre being watched late at night. You dont run and scream immediately you sort of walk a tiny bit faster trying not to let them know that you know because that’ll trigger the chase.

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    US invading Iran is similar to Putin invading Brazil btw distance-wise. Which one can you imagine ever happening?

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      There’s a lot going wrong in that country, sadly. But their stance lately on the US and Israel is admirable and should be an example for the rest of the EU, and the world. Silence is compliance.

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        Spain’s location is very important strategically, and not being able to us Naval Station Rota, and Morón airbase complicates things for the US. Disabling, no, but it certainly makes things harder.

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        Sorry, how does not supporting the war in Ukraine make Spain’s opposition to US and Israeli wars hypocritical? This makes no sense.

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          Awesome. Better late than never.

          But if their PM says they’ve given 4 billion I suppose it must be true. He is the leader of a country after all. They would never lie or skew the truth in their favour.

          Spain with their corruption are obviously highly trustworthy.

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          Oh wow… closed airspace for US military planes. Must be real expensive. What a huge sacrifice.

          They’re not risking anything. It doesn’t cost them anything. The only reason they close it is for their own domestic politics.

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            You probably don’t mean to, but you’re sounding like a bit of an ignorant asshole. Were you like hangry or sth when you wrote this?

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              Possibly. I am in the process of decreasing my carb intake by 99%

              Great that they closed their airspace. Truly. But praising them for “going hard” I think is silly. And I stand by that their reason for doing so is purely for domestic politics. It’s the right decision but for the wrong reason.

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                for the wrong reason.

                I don’t see why this matters to you at all. If someone feeds the homeless nefariously, then let them. The homeless are getting fed. If someone stops the holocaust because it allows them to cement their hegemony, or because they got paid for it, whatever! If it stops the holocaust, I’m happy.

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                  Except it doesn’t stop the genocide at all.

                  And the problem with doing the right thing for the wrong reason is that next time it’s not going to be the right thing.

                  And people do feed homeless people nefariously, it’s a real problem for real people. Mixing in moulded food. Filling sandwiches with toothpaste.

                  I’m sure you want them to say thank you and eat around the toothpaste… but I’m not going to praise them for it.

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                  Why would it be relative? I’m sure Denmark could close their airspace to the US too, but it’s not relevant so does it matter?

                  Other countries are busy spending enormous sums of money and resources on helping Ukraine. Opening up a second front in a second war has never been a successful strategy.

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            Naval Station Rota, and Morón Airbase are pretty fucking big, strategic, and not being able to use them is not trivial.

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                You could be fighting in Ukraine, since you seem to think that’s a good idea. There’s plenty of conscripts happy to switch places with you.

                I’ll even cover your railway ticket from Poland.

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                  I’ve already been to Ukraine. We drove 2 trucks from Sweden filled with supplies. Everything from stethoscope’s to food. What have you done?

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                Mate, Spain isn’t doing great itself. As much as I would love to have Spain’s support, they need ours first. There is a lot of corruption, poverty, inequality, oppression of minority groups, etc. The fact they speak out against a tyrant does more on the world stage than staying politically correct and trying to keep the modern fascist regime a friend because that would be the economically smart choice.

                We need people to speak up, to take a side, because silance is compliance. In history we remember the ones who did. Like Martin Luther King and Ghandi, to just name a few. Their words meant more than their money. We also remember the UK and France for taking a stance against Hitler too late, after letting him go too far already.

                Even the pope is doing it. It has always been the strongest power of the Vatican, even though their wealth could end world hunger more than once.

                What Spain is risking by closing it’s airspace to the US, is war with the US if the US doesn’t give a shit and uses its airspace, and Spain keeps its word. I wouldn’t say that’s just bark and no bite. That shit is serious. It’s only just bark if they don’t enforce it, but we don’t know that yet. At least they take a strong stance, which should be an example to us all. They risk war with a super power to take a moral stance. They are modern day heroes if you ask me. Rosa Park did the same, taking huge risks to take a stance.

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                  They are not doing great themselves, yes, there’s plenty of corruption to go around, is any of that an excuse? Their problems didn’t happen yesterday. They’ve had plenty of time to work for a better future. All while being funded by the EU. They’re just not interested…

                  I’m not complaining about Spain closing their airspace. That’s great.

                  But giving Spain credit for “going hard” is just wrong. For decades they’ve gone by doing the bare minimum, if even that, reaping every possible benefit of EU while contributing nothing of worth or significance.

                  Spain is not risking war with the US. Not even close.