You will own nothing and be happy about it.

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    You realize that “apolitical” is an extremely well-known nazi dog-whistle / pure apologetics these days, right? I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy framework, that’s your call to make, and my threshold-to-nazi is clearly different from yours, but I do think people should at least look at who they’re in bed with.

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        Sure everything has a definition. Like antropsophy - doesn’t mean it makes sense.

        IMO there is no such thing as “apolitical”. Organisations or projects where money or resources flow are automatically political. Because where are the resources or the money coming from?

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          So absolutely every commercial activity is “political”? What is the political nature of selling sheep cheese for example?

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            Is every commercial activity not political? Engaging in a commercial activity by definition has some socioeconomic impact(or else this activity would not be viable), and therefore is political in my opinion.

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            There is a political movement opposing the making and selling of sheep cheese: Veganism -> the ethical part of it is political.

            How much do you pay the workers selling the cheese? -> political

            How are you allowed to buy sheep? Online? In a package? Are you allowed to clone it? -> political

            How many taxes do you pay - how much does “big sheep”? -> political

            So while it mostly is not a political act of you to sell the sheep-cheese there are a lot of political questions surrounding the selling of it.

            It can however also be a political act: selling sheep’s milk at a religious event that is strictly against sheep’s being milked by humans can be seen as a form of protest.

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              Veganism may be political, but to construe selling sheep cheese as a political statement against veganism is absurd.

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                I notice you glossed over all the other political aspects of selling sheep cheese that they listed.

                The price is political. Who you sell to is political. Who milks the sheep is political. Zoning for sheep grazing is political. Property is political. Feed is political. Animal welfare is political. Owning animals is political. It’s all politics, all the way down.

                Any time people are involved, politics follow. “Apolitical” is a lie told by people who want their politics to just be “normal”.

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                  Well, if you go deep down like that, indeed everything is political. Then let’s be more concrete. What political aspect of Omarchy itself do you find appaling. Let me hear of it. No not the guy developing it. You said, everything is political so tell me what is the political nature of Omarchy itself that is to be opposed.

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                    It literally advertises itself as “opinionated” and is being pushed as “non-woke” (whatever the fuck that means). It’s funded by Cloudfare, not simply because the distro needs money, but also because the developer is opposed to torrenting. It has closed-source chatbots like ChatGPT and Grok pre-installed into it. These are all political positions and choices.

                    And it’s certainly a political choice to give your money to it and wear the merch (which are just advertisements you pay for the privilege to wear). Don’t be surprised if someone assumed you’re a Nick Fuentes fan if they recognize your swag.

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              I always suspected the miniature rail operators in the local city park are proponents of big rail feeding already the youngest with pro-rail propaganda!

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        Definitions, or rather language, tend to change over time. Usually turning into their opposites. And nothing stops people, in this case right wingers, to abuse a term to hide their crap either. See “Evolution: Contoversy”. No,I’m sorry, just like “Hacker” has become a synonym for “Cracker” & “Black Hat”, so “apolitical” has become a fig leaf to “hide” right wing bullshit in plain sight

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        Usually very old (more tenth than second-hand) Lenovo ThinkPads (And, yes, I am aware of IBMs involvement in Holocaust management via the Deutsche Hollerith-Maschienen AG), they tend to be ok for neat things like LibreBoot too. If I didn’t want to tinker with them myself I’d buy directly from https://minifree.org/ instead. Sure, they are oooooold, but I’m a programmer of the vim-persuasion, but not compiling horrible languages like C++, so I really don’t need much. That said: I am ok with people making their own decisions, following their own moral compass; I really just wanted to make sure that they are at least aware and can make an informed decision ;-)

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      Ok, please, go ahead, explain me the political dimension of any part of Omarchy. No, not the guy behind it, the Linux “distro”. I am listening.

      And what exactly makes any leading figure of Hyprland an actual Nazi? Please elaborate with concrete arguments.

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        I do not agree with everything in that thread but I do agree on that part: every project or organisation that is involved in flow of money or resources(which dev-time is!) is automatically living in a political space.

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        There’s loads of articles out there about them,not my job to explain them to you. You may disagree with their conclusions, of course, but othes may draw conclusions from your behaviour, too. In this sense: plonk