Ukrainian military personnel shot down Iranian-designed Shahed drones in multiple Middle Eastern countries during the Iran war, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said, describing the operations as part of a broader effort to help partners counter the same weapons used by Russia in Ukraine.
Zelenskyy made his first public acknowledgment of the operations Wednesday in remarks to reporters that were embargoed until Friday. He said Ukrainian forces took part in active operations abroad using domestically produced interceptor drones proven in countering Iranian-designed Shahed drones used by Russia in Ukraine.
“This was not about a training mission or exercises, but about support in building a modern air defence system that can actually work,” Zelenskyy said.
Needs to be cross-posted to lemmy.ml news.
I mean Ukraine has no business fucking around in the middle east war tbh
It’s a PR campaign that is important for Ukraine. Demented Don may not be impressed by help given while being hard pressed at home but others are.
Ukraine has no business defending against the same drones Iran used to bomb Ukranian cities during Russia invasion of Ukraine?
Maybe I am missing something here. Does not look like Ukraine is part of the aggressor here.
I can guarantee that weapons and components from Ukrainian allies have been used to attack Ukraine. That logic doesnt stick. If countries would always go to war with every country that supplied weapons to their enemy, then every war would be an all out world war involving almost every country in the world.
Ukraine is not at war with Iran. Ukraine is helping defend against Iran attach to countries around Iran. The US is attaching Iran. The US asked no help to Ukraine.
Ukrainians personally shot down a foreign countries military assets during wartime, thats an act of war.
They didnt “help”, they didnt “teach” or “supply” they “shot down”. Thats Uraine directly partaking in a war.
No, it is not an act of war. Article 51 of the UN Charter explicitly grant right to self defence. Inviting other nations to assist in that defence is a right granted by the UN Charter. Iran can obviously consider Ukranian personal as hostile, that is their prerogative, but that does not mean that shooting down drone in self defence is an act of war.
Iran is not the agressor in this war though, so its not self defence on the side of Israel and its allies.
Iran is the aggressor against the gulf state. No gulf state has made aggressive action against Iran, and there was no military action from gulf states except self defence. All gulf states have no interest in getting involved in the conflict and asked for deescalation at the UN. In a joint declaration from the middle east council on global affairs:
When Iran decided to attach civilian targets totally unrelated with the conflict then it became aggressor. Iran can be the aggressor and the target of war at the same time.
Kites with no personell on board, more akin as aiding to de-mine a field.
Iran did not bomb Ukraine.
Russia did use Iranian drones.
If both statement are the same to you then every country that sells weapons to israel is a legitimate target for resistance movement ( like the EU )
Sure, I will not find it problematic if Russia decided to enact defensive measure in Gaza to protect palestine against weapon sold by European nations. I actually would encourage it. I would also encourage any nation to come to the defence of any nation that is a target of an aggressive conquest war from the EU. None materialized as of now for the EU, but for sure I have no problem whatsoever with Russia defending Iran against American aggression. I have problems with Russia being the aggressor.
EDIT: I want to also add that after 2023 numerous EU countries enacted arms embargoes against Israeil. Iran started supplying the drone to Russia after the invasion and to support the invasion. That is a worthy enough difference to me.
Ukraine intercepted Shahed drones. They DID NOT bomb Iran.
Get your facts straight buddy.
It is called mutual help, which, Ukraine is now forced to provide because of help that was offered to it before. Otherwise it will look like a dipshit country that only can receive help but not give it.
Or some would say that the Ukraine regime is a puppet of western imperialism as it is directly supporting an illegal war by the US (and its dogs) on my region
Trump explicitly rejected help from Ukraine with drone defence. And he has done so multiple time. The help Ukraine is given is to UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and Jordan, not the US.
as i said in my message (and its dogs) those countries you listed are puppets regimes controlled by US, and are literally here to serve western imperialism interests.
ukraine should focus on liberating it self from russia occupation and it should stop being a puppet state for the epstien class.
And you continue to ignore that the US stopped support for Ukraine as soon as the epstein class came to power, that Trump attacked Zelensky numerous times, tried to force a peace deal drafted by Russia onto Ukraine (demanding recognition of occupied territories and more), and the suspension of Intelligence and Residual support (now provided directly by Ukraine and France as Primary alternative provider).
Helping Gulf states is instrumental is creating defence partnership that fuel Ukraine war economy against Russia. This is done as the US is not supporting Ukraine anymore and is arguable more favorable to Russia (easing of sanction to Russia, normalizing Russia-US economy cooperation, and redirecting military supply paid by Europe for Ukraine to domestic needs instead)
What you say is just false.
It is a return of favor for all the help that was given for the Ukraine from other countries. Ukraine knows how to deal with this type of weapons. Despite some civilian protests, Zelenskiy send small group of soldiers as instructors to help with drones. This is done to increase levels of importance and friendship for Ukraine. That is all.
The USA has no business fucking around in the… everywhere. Providing air support (air defense? What’s the word here brain?) is fine by me. Maybe not for the aggressors (Israel and USA) though.
No fucking business defending against the regime that designed and produced the drones that have been knocking their civilian infrastructure for four years. Get a fucking grip.
There is very little he cant do at this stage, he has the mandate to protect his country’s borders. I’d love to know what country you are from with their gold star foreign policy?
Russia supports Iran, Iran makes shahed drones for Russia. It’s a proxy war.