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    23 hours ago

    I have seen this topic before and I don’t understand what the importance of the issue is. Isn’t the USA sharing intelligence with Ukraine? I suppose that Russia sharing information with Iran is what is expected in the situation and what could anyone do to prevent it?

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      15 hours ago

      what could anyone do to prevent it?

      Just send a few hundred tomahawk missiles as military aid to Ukraine. Then tell Russia that if Russia does not stop, the US will send more.

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        7 hours ago

        The US is already sending a large amount of military material to Ukraine and if it sent something more forceful to pressure Russia, what Russia would do is send long-range missiles to Iran and then what? Do you keep climbing waiting for someone to do the chicken before you get to the nuclear thing?

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          5 hours ago

          The US is already sending a large amount of military material to Ukraine

          No it isn’t. Trump stopped all new aid.

          Only what Europe paid for is being sent.

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            4 hours ago

            and? What does that change? It does not invalidate my previous point at all, there is already American material on the ground and American aid to Ukraine (it does not matter who pays for it in this case), it is normal for Russia to do the same with Iran (help that you also do not know if Iran pays like Ukraine does) and increasing it will only make Russia increase its aid to Iran, what do you gain from that and where do you set the limit?

            On the original issue of the shipment, the US recognizing that Russia provides intelligence support to Iran is not going to change anything or benefit anyone in any way. Apart from the fact that if the US does/did it with Ukraine, with what argument are they going to even ask Russia to stop doing it?

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        22 hours ago

        I still don’t understand the importance, what change in strategy should the United States make knowing this? does they need to confirm it? Because for me it is obvious that Russia shares information with Iran, it was obvious that it was going to happen before starting the war and there is nothing at any level that the USA can do beyond saying, oh boy, what bad luck is mine

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          21 hours ago

          Trump is a friend of Putin. Rather a submissive. So it is weird that Russia helps Iran but Trump doesn’t react to this.

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            5 hours ago

            So it is weird that Russia helps Iran but Trump doesn’t react to this.

            It’s not weird at all. Trump will never do anything to oppose Putin besides talk. And talk is cheap, especially when it’s coming from Trump.