My wife tried to post a bunch on art related communities only to have her account banned without us knowing. She does oil paintings and other such art pieces. You had to have a history before you could post…which no one was willing to tell her. So her account got shadow banned. She gave up after a while on reddit. I dont blame her.
On top of that, bullshit “reputation” rules should never exist here.
When I first made my reddit account years ago, I remember being so confused when I couldn’t post more than one comment every 10 minutes (absolute bullshit arbitrary restriction), and when I tried to join a community with “too low karma.” “Oops, you can’t do that cause you’re an unpopular nobody and we don’t want you here… Yet.”
What’s the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don’t have enough “points” on their comments or posts? It’s just such bullshit imo, and restricts everything an online forum should be.
What’s the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don’t have enough “points” on their comments or posts?
It is a legitimate anti-abuse tactic. Like you’ve mentioned, there are obvious flaws, but it does help prevent brigadiers, advertisers and other bad actors from easily spinning up throwaways to harass or manipulate a community.
Another way to do this could be account age testing, but this can be defeated by pre-registering empty accounts.
How is a normal person, who’s never used reddit in the past, supposed to even know how to get karma? Or how the lack of karma is impacting their UX?
The only way is to game the system, get into a sub that allows shitposts and exists for the sole reason of boosting karma. Which immediately teaches the new person to game the system. Counter-intuitive and counter-productive.
I think it’s definitely an effective way to keep new users from spamming.
It chases away new users (or, at the very least, keeps them from active participation). Because of this system, a new Reddit user is more likely to be a doom-scroller with zero participation. And that’s what Reddit wants. Reddit doesn’t need another shitposter. Reddit doesn’t lack for quality content, since it aggregates the bulk of its content from other sites via powerusers. So fuck it if new people participate, as long as they see the advertising sponsors, Reddit is happy.
Shadow bans.
My wife tried to post a bunch on art related communities only to have her account banned without us knowing. She does oil paintings and other such art pieces. You had to have a history before you could post…which no one was willing to tell her. So her account got shadow banned. She gave up after a while on reddit. I dont blame her.
I hope we never get so petty.
On top of that, bullshit “reputation” rules should never exist here.
When I first made my reddit account years ago, I remember being so confused when I couldn’t post more than one comment every 10 minutes (absolute bullshit arbitrary restriction), and when I tried to join a community with “too low karma.” “Oops, you can’t do that cause you’re an unpopular nobody and we don’t want you here… Yet.”
What’s the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don’t have enough “points” on their comments or posts? It’s just such bullshit imo, and restricts everything an online forum should be.
Well it’s obviously to deter bots
It is a legitimate anti-abuse tactic. Like you’ve mentioned, there are obvious flaws, but it does help prevent brigadiers, advertisers and other bad actors from easily spinning up throwaways to harass or manipulate a community.
Another way to do this could be account age testing, but this can be defeated by pre-registering empty accounts.
It’s a
legitimateCONFUSING anti-abuse tactic.How is a normal person, who’s never used reddit in the past, supposed to even know how to get karma? Or how the lack of karma is impacting their UX?
The only way is to game the system, get into a sub that allows shitposts and exists for the sole reason of boosting karma. Which immediately teaches the new person to game the system. Counter-intuitive and counter-productive.
I think it’s definitely an effective way to keep new users from spamming.
It chases away new users (or, at the very least, keeps them from active participation). Because of this system, a new Reddit user is more likely to be a doom-scroller with zero participation. And that’s what Reddit wants. Reddit doesn’t need another shitposter. Reddit doesn’t lack for quality content, since it aggregates the bulk of its content from other sites via powerusers. So fuck it if new people participate, as long as they see the advertising sponsors, Reddit is happy.
Agreed