• ryannathans@aussie.zone
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      Is this what happened in the lead up to WW2? Obviously without the existence of the state of Israel

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        No, the Jewish people did not exert nearly the same influence as Israel does today despite the propaganda of the time claiming otherwise.

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          Is there any way to verify that now? My understanding is that Zionists bankrolled the war to accelerate the creation of official state of Israel

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            To be frank this theory you are positing is absurd.

            Did a disparate group of people connected by religion have the same influence as the entire modern state of Israel? Absolutely not.

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              You are the one linking it to an entire religion. Zionists have long predated Israel and have had significant power. That’s literally why Israel exists!

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            How is that your understanding? What information or sources did you base that on?

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            Hell no they didn’t. Hitler and crew didn’t need any help massacring everything that moved, and they were backed by German moneyed interests (you know, the people that stood to gain from his rule), not a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. In the first place, WWII didn’t contribute nearly as much as you’d expect to the creation of Israel; if anything it made the British acquiesce to Palestinian demands to secure their support. WWII was the culmination of European great power politics; besides, interwar Poland was one of Zionists’ most important patrons, and its loss almost destroyed the whole project.

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              Zionists were at work well before WW2, which is where the Nazis were actively helping set up the beginnings of Israel

              Zionists took the wealth of Jews in Germany and did not let them take it to Palestine. This funded efforts leading to and including WW2