• pharceface@retrolemmy.com
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    5 hours ago

    It kills me that this was initially shoved out there as a safe alternative to smoking. No actually research, just trust us bro. And of course all this starts coming out and some people are still of the opinion that its safe due to the initial marketing push. Money at all costs, fuck capitalism.

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      4 hours ago

      Relatively safe != safe, it just means more safe than the thing being compared to. It’s likely still a big improvement over smoking.

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        35 minutes ago

        That is a fair assessment, I thankfully never picked up a smoking habit. If vaping got some folks to quit smoking then it did serve as an efficient off ramp. I’ve watched close relatives wither from lung cancer, wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Hope you’re in good health and spirits.

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          16 minutes ago

          So far so good, though we’ll see how my own time smoking and vaping catches up to me in the end.

          And then you hear shit like living in a city is as bad for your lungs as smoking from all the car exhaust and figure “well at least I’m back down to just smoking risk instead of 2x smoking risk”. I am (hopefully) relatively healthier than I was when I did smoke, though unfortunately older.

          Hope your health reflects your healthy choices well and that you haven’t gotten old in the meantime while seeing how it goes. :)

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        4 hours ago

        Also let’s remember how it was originally marketed: You start with the dose that matches your smoking habit, 18 or 24mg of nicotine per bottle, and then work your way towards 0%, and then you can just give it up. It’s how I quit smoking. I am pretty sure that few years of vaping was safer for me than the next 40 (well probably a lot less) of smoking would be.

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          3 hours ago

          Yeah, and the flavours helped because it wasn’t as satisfying as cigarettes but you could have fun flavours to at least make it enjoyable and interesting enough to not just want a cigarette instead (or in addition).