Source for this article is Israeli news. Sharing because this is the the complete opposite of what has been said to us by american media the last few hours while the markets get manipulated. We will find out in the coming hours/days but figured to share what this other side is reporting
As someone else mentioned Iran is morally reprehensible but they haven’t been found lying so often like Israel and US.
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They are a regime that has imprisoned and murdered civilians by the thousands. They didn’t like TO YOU because you weren’t paying attention.
Look, I realize we all want clear good guys and bad guys. And your favorite influencers LOVE to play on that to get views for their twitch channels. But this isn’t even a case where “Well, Hamas does a lot of evil things but they are morally justified in my opinion”. This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason.
Trust third parties. Trust facts. Don’t trust fascist fucking dictators.
I don’t understand this refusal to side with the lesser of two evils.
Yes, Iran’s government is very bad in some ways, such as tratment of gay people. However, it is completely ridiculous to equivocate them with America and Israel. Iran isn’t a world-bestriding empire responsible for tens of millions of deaths in its pursuit of world domination, nor is it a fascist ethnostate with unlimited territorial ambitions undertaking an active genocide. It’s a religious conservative semi-democracy with a relatively robust welfare system and a strong public sector - basically if you added sharia law to a nordic model social democracy then placed it under a state of perpetual siege, you get Iran. This is not comparable to genocidal nazi pedophiles.
If you then factor in the fact that Iran’s opponents are completely lawless and are serial violators of the UN charter (plus the UN genocide convention), while Iran is fighting a defensive war, it becomes completely possible for any reasonable person to desire any other outcome other than Iran’s victory. You can say that they’re a “regime” and that they’re heckin fascists (they’re not and you don’t know what fascism is), but they’re objectively fighting for international law and the rights of the developing world against imperial domination. It doesn’t matter what their actual internal motivations are, these are the de jure stakes of this war.
So getting bombed by the USA equals “This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason”?? or you were referring to Israel and the USA?
You see, this is exactly why you are losing credibility. You are trying to seem neutral but the bias just oozes out.
We are all aware Iran sucks, but you seem to be clinging to the “the USA is fighting for democracy” BS that was stale a decade ago
So getting bombed by the USA equals “This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason”??I don’t want to get dragged into the rest of this argument, but yes getting bombed and then retaliating with missiles does mean that Iran has gone to war. It doesn’t mean they started it, which is very worth noting, but it does mean they’ve gone to war.
Iran can be considered an evil regime, the USA can be considered an evil regime, therefore the two of them being at war does mean it can be said that two evil regimes are going to war.
No. I am not. Again. It is incredibly obvious you view the world as good versus evil. You cannot look at an event without deciding who is the good guy and who is the bad guy and you ignore whatever facts get in the way of that. A LOT of people do that. It is a symptom of the infantilization of so much Western media. But that isn’t real life and all you are doing by the constant “gotta hand it to them” nonsense is literally caping for murderous bastards.
Because, like I said,
Where do you get this? I am simply stating that, in this situation, trump has NO credibility and therefore I tend to believe Iran’s opposing statement
It seems clear this is your take on things and you are just imposing it on everyone else
Again which 2 are you referring to? Iran and the USA? or the USA and Israel?