- cross-posted to:
- world@lemmy.world
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- world@lemmy.world
On 5 March, a post appeared on the X account of Iran’s late supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, managed by his staff after he was killed in an Israeli airstrike on 28 February. The tweet featured a stark piece of propaganda: a gleaming, oversized missile arcing across the sky as a city below is engulfed in flames. The caption read: “Khorramshahr moments are on the horizon.”
The Khorramshahr missile, Iran’s most advanced ballistic missile, is believed to be capable of carrying a cluster warhead dispersing up to 80 submunitions. Since that post, it has come to loom large in Israeli threat assessments, a persistent concern for a country equipped with a multi-layered missile defence system that is widely regarded as the world’s most sophisticated.
The latest attack using cluster munitions occurred on Sunday, when an Iranian ballistic missile struck central Israel, injuring 15 people.
According to the Israel Defense Forces, roughly half of the missiles launched from Iran since the escalation have carried cluster warheads.
The Guardian, which reviewed the impact of dozens of Iranian strikes alongside statements from Israeli officials, has identified at least 19 ballistic missiles carrying cluster warheads that penetrated Israeli airspace and struck urban areas since the beginning of the war with Iran on 28 February. Those attacks have killed at least nine people and wounded dozens, reflecting a broader shift in Iran’s tactics that appears to have exposed a vulnerability in Israel’s air defences. Since the start of the war, Iran’s cluster munitions – which disperse dozens of bomblets mid-air – have tested Israel’s highly advanced, multi-tier missile defence network, including Iron Dome, which is designed to counter threats across ranges, altitudes and speeds, exposing gaps that interception alone has struggled to close.
Iran has been arming resistance to Israeli colonialism for decades, but that does not in any way make Israel a victim. Palestinians and Lebanese have the right to defend themselves, and Iran has the right (and, like the rest of the world, moral duty) to help them defend themselves.
Can you explain how the Lebanese are defending themselves when they’re firing rockets over the border into Israel?
Do… do you know why Hezbollah was even founded? For a hint, here’s a literal former Israeli PM on the topic:
Yeah, two reasons actually:
1: beat back the Israeli’s (who invaded because the PLO was attacking them from Lebanon)
2: to tilt the Lebanese civil war in favour of the Shia sect
But neither seems like a valid reason to keep attacking Israel today
Israel has been bombing and occupying part of Lebanon since the “ceasefire”, so your argument is ridiculous on the face of it. Hezbollah is also acting in accordance with internetional law with respect to the prevention of genocide. Finally, it does not count as “aggression” if you enter a defensive war against an aggressor - Britain and France were not aggressors in WW2 just because they declared war on Germany, since Germany had already started the war.
Copying my other reply:
Part of the ceasefire deal was Hezbollah disarming and staying north of the Litani river. Instead, they rearmed and rebuilt. Why would you only focus on the Israeli side of the ceasefire?
No deal with Israel can be relied upon. They only understand force. I wish them a great many “difficult security situations”.
If your base premise is that Hezbollah should just be allowed to break a ceasefire deal, why would you bring it up? Can’t you see the irony?
Hey Zionist sealion: you’re scum and you will suffer.
Don’t care, fuck you, death to Israel.
Your attempt to whitewash the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (brutal enough that even Reagan told them to dial it down) was not missed.
Are Israel’s near-daily ceasefire violations and its occupation of Lebanese territory reason enough?
Part of the ceasefire deal was Hezbollah disarming and staying north of the Litani river. Instead, they rearmed and rebuilt. Why would you only focus on the Israeli side of the ceasefire?
Because only Israeli violations fucking kill people wth is this question? Also I like how you ignored the bit about occupying Lebanese territory.
These conditions are there to prevent them from killing more people.
If you’re referring about the war of '82 I assume you have either a very, very onesided or a very, very rudimentary view on that part of history. And even then: after that war ended 40 years ago, why would you want Hezbollah to restart it? Who does it help to keep this going?
And/or defend themselves the next time Israel comes knocking. Their occupation of more Syrian territory in 2025 certainly doesn’t inspire confidence.
No I’m referring to Shebaa Farms and the outposts they refused to leave in Southern Lebanon after the ceasefire, but yeah the Israeli invasion of '82 too.
You’re actually a Hamas apologist. Wow.
TF do you mean “apologist?” Hamas being a (and, in fact, by far the biggest) Palestinian armed resistance organization and the fact they do a lot of evil shit are two facts that can be true at the same time. That doesn’t mean supporting Hamas is victimizing Israel.
It kinda does tho. Hamas, in one form or another, has been attacking Isreal for many decades. Isreal has been attacking Gaza and Lebanon and other Arab countries for decades too. They’re all victims of each other and a product of an unfortunate history. There have even been some serious attempts at peaceful resolution, which always get fucked up by one side or the other, or usually both. Yes I 100% agree that isreal’s actions are unacceptable and horrific. But they are also victims. Just like the people of Gaza could have voted for a government that strived for a peaceful solution, but chose a violent one - but they are still victims of the result.
One doesn’t become a victim due to being attacked; it takes being unjustly attacked to make one a victim. This makes certain individual Israeli civilians victims, but not Israel as a whole.
With all due respect, this is the most historically illiterate thing I’ve read today. The only reason Hamas even exists is the complete and utter failure of peaceful solutions. And of course they failed; what, did you also expect the Irish or Algerians to strive for peaceful solutions? Rejecting peaceful solutions has been Israeli policy for longer than Israel existed. Hell, the current state of the West Bank should tell you all you need to know about what “striving for peaceful solutions” looks like,.
No I expect the Irish to keep fighting to this day and bomb people in London next week. Never stop fighting!!! /s?
WTF?
Look back at the history, there have been plenty of peace talks scuppered by the Palestinians extremists (just as there have been by the Israeli extremists).
Yes, Isreal is totally fucked in the way they attack Palestinians. And visa versa. Both sides can claim tat for tit going a long way back. But unless we find a way to realize violence on BOTH SIDES is bad, it’s not going to be possible to find a solution.
Are you fucking kidding me? The Irish got an acceptable settlement in Good Friday, so they’re not bombing London anymore. They bombed the shit out of Brits and Loyalists before Good Friday, which is what Palestinians are doing. The Irish didn’t get their freedom by fucking magic.
Example? If there are many, give what you consider the best example.
Then what are Palestinians supposed to do? Pray? When peaceful resistance fails, violent resistance becomes the only solution. Violence is only bad if there’s another option available; no such thing is available to Palestinians. Again, have you seen the state of the West Bank? That’s what the peace you’re asking for looks like. Your refusal acknowledge this means your position is built on magical thinking divorced from reality.
And Isreal thinks the same thing, that they need to use violence to stop Hamas from firing rockets at them. And yes it’s a lopsided war (putting it mildly) - all the more reason for Palestinians to keep trying for a peaceful solution, I would think. Both side are violent. Isreal is more in control right now, so yes, I put the onus on them to find a peaceful solution. And they’re obviously not doing that right now which makes them pure evil. What should the Palestinians do? Have voted for peace when they had a chance, and not do the Oct attacks, and keep pushing for human rights. But we’re past that now, so I honestly don’t know. But if the chance comes up where Isreal looks for a peaceful solution, I would hope that Hamas stops firing rockets at them.
You seem to have no concrete idea for what should be (or even have been) done. You should have one if you want to have a conversation about this. And no, “vote for peace” (the fuck does that even mean) and “keep pushing for human rights” (see before) don’t count. Your current position is basically “if Palestinians are nice they’ll get a happy ending through the power of friendship.”
Then, no offense, everything you just said is worthless. You can’t condemn violent resistance without having a realistic proposal for peaceful resistance.
That’s the whole point of the rockets. Hamas pretty much accepts a two-state solution (though in different terms, because Hamas considers Israel illegitimate and refuses to recognize it).
Because there were so many free and fair elections in Gaza.
There was one. And they chose Hamas. One of Hamas’ platforms was that they’d abolish democracy. And they won.
Do you seriously believe there was a free and fair election in Gaza? Jesus …
It was pretty decent with independent observers. Poll agreed with results both before and after so yes it seemed pretty fair. There wasn’t significant cohesion reported by observers.
you’re actually a zionist supremacist/terrorism and war crimes apologist. Even bigger Wow. Why not stand on the side of universal human rights for all, eh? Maybe if Israel did that just once they’d have some legs to stand on. But they keep raping and killing women and kids, and keep stealing land, dont they. So yeah, that gets people pretty mad, including Hamas, yeah. Funny how that works.
Would you be so silly to claim Hamas has no reason to seek violent redress for what Israel has done to them? I’m shocked its not 1000x worse than what Hamas and Hezbollah are doing. Did you really think there would be no paybacks? Thats profoundly arrogant and just plain dumb.
Because I say both sides are bad for continuing the violence over the last decade? And I specifically called out Isreal on its atrocities? Wtf? Are you really that ignorant and closed minded?
Just what is it that you find so appealing about genocide, fasicsm, and pedophilia? It boggles the mind.
Can you not read? Just because an opinion isn’t 100% aligned with your personal brainwashing, doesn’t mean it’s diametrically opposed. What you did is called a ‘strawman argument’. Try looking that up and learn why it makes you an idiot. No offense.
You didn’t answer the question
Neither did you.
Which of the three do you prefer, if you had to choose? I’m referring to my original question if you’re confused.