• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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      14 hours ago

      Every implementation of “communism” back to lenin, stalin, and mao has been “communism in name only.”

      Lenin literally instructed the bolsheviks to kill all the soviets after he lost an election to them, so that he could seize power and install puppets in their positions.

      If you actually read marx, communism was supposed to be a democratic system governed by what are essentially workers unions. Lenin and trotsky are where it veered off course.

      And I’m not just blowing smoke up your ass. When I argue with tankies they call me a capitalist simply because I reject their bolshevism. Believe it or not, nuanced and well-informed takes are allowed on the internet.

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        13 hours ago

        They sure are! The only problem is you’ve just tried to convince the one person on this forum who doesn’t give a shit about communism

        I live in Australia, it’s fuckin amazing,there’s no need for communism here m8

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          12 hours ago

          That’s great and all, but anyone in the Middle-class or above tend to be complacent with capitalist systems even when most of the value they produce by their labor gets syphoned and hoarded by the owner-class, and doled out to the c-suite in huge bonuses, while your pay and benefits packages stagnate.

          Also ignoring constantly rising prices and enshittification due to corporate greed and “infinite growth” mentality, constantly trying to maximize profits and never accepting a stable system as “good enough.”

          There are a lot of problems with capitalism when you really dig into it, and not all of its problems are limited to only effecting the poor.

          But if you live in a nation with public healthcare and education funded by taxpayer dollars, congratulations! You’re benefiting from elements of socialism.

          Under a purely capitalist system, those things would be privatized and commodified like they are in the US. You know, that renowned american healthcare and education… that’s capitalism in a nutshell.

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            11 hours ago

            Under a purely capitalist system, those things would be privatized and commodified like they are in the US. You know, that renowned american healthcare and education…

            Yes I’m very well aware of the problems of America, you guys literally won’t shut the fuck up about them 😩

            I’d argue it represents a bigger problem with democracy than capitalism though, the only reason you don’t have universal healthcare and education is because your countries voters don’t want it

            If they did they would have elected representatives who do and implemented it

            Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.