French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday, February 14, urged calm and restraint after the fatal beating of a 23-year-old French youth aligned with the far-right on the sidelines of a conference by a hard-left lawmaker in the southeastern city of Lyon.
The death of the young man – identified only as Quentin – has intensified tensions between France’s far-right and radical left who are both eyeing 2027 presidential elections.
He had been hospitalized in Lyon on Thursday after being attacked while providing what his supporters said was security for a protest against an appearance by hard-left MEP Rima Hassan at the Lyon branch of the Sciences Po university.
Denotation ignores connotation, and in the US, “radical left” has specific meaning, especially to nazis.
America has no concept of “radical left”. I can suggest something mild and end up being called a communist.
Precisely. As a progressive, what I want is generally considered pretty normal and basic in any of the other 32 OECD (“developed”) countries.
There are a few that would be “radical”, but they are a tiny minority.
Tell ya what, though, after putting up with fascist bullshit all my life, while I just want basic freedom and a social safety net, I’m willing to listen to these “radical” left. Certainly the regressive right has done fuck all for us.
Radical has always been progressive in america. Right out of the civil rights movement co-opted by hippies.
If you are backing down to the nazis and letting them change the meaning of words I am going to call you a weak dog.
There is nothing radical about progressives in the US. As a progressive… we are centrist in most of the other 32 OECD (“developed”) countries.
Radical left would start with things like no private property, ownership of everything by all, things like that.
So no, friend, I’m not changing the meaning of anything. Calling progressives in the US “radical” is already changing the meaning and wussing out on what actual radical change would be.
You have this negative association with the word that is entirely adopted from the right. The civil rights movement was radical, dude.
Seems like you wish to ignore all of my points.
Fair enough.
Have a lovely day.
You ignored my points you just want to be agreed with you never engaged my points which actually contradicted you. Your point is that progressives in america aren’t progressives because progressives in other countries are more progressive? But they are still progressive, you are still progressive. But because I don’t immediate agree with you, you say I am ignoring your points, I would say that you aren’t progressive at all. Because that isn’t how discussion works, that’s hmmm. Maybe there is a name for “agree with me or else” ??
No. As I stated, the “radical left” in the US is not radical.
Anyway, we’re not gonna agree on this, which is fine. I’m not forcing you to. I hadn’t felt you addressed my points, but this time around you did seem to do so, so I still want you to have a lovely day. :)
Observe the use of the term radical in the US after the civil rights movement. It’s really not as easy as your personal opinion there is more going to this.
E: And if it’s progressive to be more left than right in america, I think it tracks that radical is more left than left in america.