• Skiluros@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    1 day ago

    I think the Americans are going to leave NATO soon. It seems like a logical outcome of their current trajectory (among many other things). As things stand, it is unlikely there will be any true change American society; ~40% are committed to a chauvinistic, pro-crime, pro-corruption direction and even many in the “far right lite” (what is marketed as “moderates” in the US) or even the centre right don’t have any appetite for real anti-crime reform (for example arresting and charging Zuckerburg and other senior Meta executives for a pre-meditated multi billion dollar fraud scheme, and that’s one tiny example out many).

    The victory of the centre-right in elections for the lower house isn’t going to change anything. Even a hypothetical win by someone like Michelle Obama (or one of Biden’s cabinet ministers) is just going to lead to more shallow and meaningless “Courage, Hope and Change!” rhetoric and no action. I really hope I am wrong, but can you really blame me for taking such a less than charitable posture?

    Europe should have started re-arming and preparing as far back as 2008 when the russians invaded Georgia (let alone the annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the full scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022). Merkel was warned by multiple EU members what the (overwhelming majority) of russians are like, yet to this day, even in retirement, she continues to promote russian narratives.

    Say what you want about the current situation, but it’s Europe’s Carpe diem moment. Almost a unique opportunity.

    • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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      18 hours ago

      Leaving NATO is part of Peter Thiel’s technofeudalist checklist. They want our overseas bases closed to end our status as a superpower, to hasten the end of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. And they want the money held by other nations be be transferred to the 1%.

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      20 hours ago

      AI bubble will crash and so will the American empire. It won’t have friends to bail it out.

  • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    NATO has always been about projecting US hegemony, I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see this amounting to much beyond some lip service from politicians to the general public, who generally favor NATO except for in it’s current moment.

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      18 hours ago

      It’s a bit more complicated than that. NATO was about projecting US style hegemony. NATO’s members were okay with a country like the United States being “in charge” because the US used to understand that there was win/win to be had from the relationship.

      The United States stopped being like that. I could potentially see NATO continuing on without the US - or more likely a successor organization, since the literal NATO treaty would be tricky to preserve word-for-word in that situation. I can’t see it continuing on with the US, though, since the US no longer believes in NATO’s goals.