Independent Persian has received messages from protestors within Iran via Starlink satellite that describe a ‘war-like situation’. Amirhossein Miresmaeili reports
No. You’re upside down. It’s not that the Iranian people have the support of an evil regime. It’s that if the Iranian people succeed in toppling their government, Israel will dominate the Iranian people and the Iranian people will not be able to express their will. And when the Israelis and USians put their puppets in place, if the Iranians protest, the they’ll be brutally suppressed and the death toll will be massive.
The only solution is to topple the aggressors the first. Then and only then is mass Iranian self determination able to be secured.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make? There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make?
Have you seen Gaza? Libya? Somalia? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan? That’s the difference.
There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
Incorrect attribution of cause. The problems in Iran are caused first and foremost by the siege - brutal sanctions from the US and Europe have caused 10x more deaths than violence from the government. When the seige is broken, then Iranians will have the safety they need to actually prosecute the revolution they need for self-determination.
When the seige is broken, then Iranians will have the safety they need to actually prosecute the revolution they need for self-determination.
Because you think that the Mollahs will stop using tanks and machine guns on protesters because the sanctions would be lifted? No, they will use that to reinforce themselves with more weapons, new technologies, and be an even bigger threat for the whole region.
No. The Iranian government is not in the business of killing as many people as they can. That’s Israel and the US. And the way we know that the news reports about what’s happening in Iran are lies is because the claim is that Iran is able to kill 10x as many people per day as Israel was able to kill in Gaza at the height of their offensive.
Maybe you think you don’t agree with American imperialism, but this is what you sound like:
I disagree with the great Satan, but I believe all of his lies
It’s been openly stated in Western media why the Iranian people are protesting - economic hardship. It’s also been stated that the reason for the economic hardship is US economic sanctions. And it’s also been stated that the reason for the sanctions is to goad the Iranian people into demanding regime change. And it’s also been stated that the reason to goad the Iranian people into regime change is to reestablish the dominance of US interests over Iran.
You would do well to actually consider the real world instead of arguing about vacuous morality while only consuming Western propaganda.
And yes, groups like the Human Rights Activists of Iran are Western propagandists, funded by the CIA and US State Department through the NED, with headquarters in Fairfax, VA, about 15 miles from CIA HQ.
Ah, the good old strawman. Demonize your opponent to try to get the “upper hand”.
I’m well aware how the US sanctions affect the population and what is its objective. I condemn them as much as you do. But you seem to be blind on one very important thing: how it affect the population VS how it affects the elites.
The elites of the regime lives good lives, barely affected by the sanctions (other than not being able to go to most westerns countries). Spending billions into missiles they spend without much result (so much that even a missed impact on Israel soil make the whole west headlines). To what gain?
Meanwhile you got a population that tries to live, some just survive considering the little they got. I won’t say they are worst than the US at taking care of the general population well-being, but they sure aren’t much better.
You got in both cases powerful leaders doing every evils to stay in power, even knowingly helping their adversary in order to keep them breathing (Bibi and the Hamas), and keep the fear of the other alive.
All I wish for the Iranian people is a life free, without both mollahs and outsides diktats. You won’t get that from the mollah. I’d doubt you’ll get that from the US either, or any imperialist power (Russia, China). But if the Iranians people are as resilient as they were under the US sanctions and the mollah regime, I believe they can do it.
Literally the only way the Iranians were able to throw off the imperial yoke was to establish the theocracy. That’s the historical reality. The Iranians already went democratic and they got fucking owned by the imperialists. Why do we think it’s going to be different this time when the US just fucking bombed them less than 12 months ago?
The Iranian missile program is one the most efficient in the world. It is completely indigenous, not relying on foreign governments to keep their deterrence systems in place. Each piece of material produced in Iran is produced by Iranian workers, and can be up to 90% cheaper than equivalent munitions of their adversaries. The idea that missile production is why Iranians are in trouble is ridiculous. It’s literally one of the key reasons Israel and the US don’t feel confident enough to go for a full frontal assault on the country. The job of the government is national defense and Iran was doing a good job at that until last year when Israel dealt a devastating blow, and the only thing that stopped Israel going further were the Iranian’s missiles.
If you think Iran is helping Israel in order to create the political theater they need to control their people, you are lost in delusion.
No. You’re upside down. It’s not that the Iranian people have the support of an evil regime. It’s that if the Iranian people succeed in toppling their government, Israel will dominate the Iranian people and the Iranian people will not be able to express their will. And when the Israelis and USians put their puppets in place, if the Iranians protest, the they’ll be brutally suppressed and the death toll will be massive.
The only solution is to topple the aggressors the first. Then and only then is mass Iranian self determination able to be secured.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make? There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
Have you seen Gaza? Libya? Somalia? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan? That’s the difference.
Incorrect attribution of cause. The problems in Iran are caused first and foremost by the siege - brutal sanctions from the US and Europe have caused 10x more deaths than violence from the government. When the seige is broken, then Iranians will have the safety they need to actually prosecute the revolution they need for self-determination.
Because you think that the Mollahs will stop using tanks and machine guns on protesters because the sanctions would be lifted? No, they will use that to reinforce themselves with more weapons, new technologies, and be an even bigger threat for the whole region.
Ooooh, you’re an imperialist! Got it.
No. The Iranian government is not in the business of killing as many people as they can. That’s Israel and the US. And the way we know that the news reports about what’s happening in Iran are lies is because the claim is that Iran is able to kill 10x as many people per day as Israel was able to kill in Gaza at the height of their offensive.
Maybe you think you don’t agree with American imperialism, but this is what you sound like:
It’s been openly stated in Western media why the Iranian people are protesting - economic hardship. It’s also been stated that the reason for the economic hardship is US economic sanctions. And it’s also been stated that the reason for the sanctions is to goad the Iranian people into demanding regime change. And it’s also been stated that the reason to goad the Iranian people into regime change is to reestablish the dominance of US interests over Iran.
https://apnews.com/live/iran-protests-updates-1-12-2026
Associated Press. In black and white.
You would do well to actually consider the real world instead of arguing about vacuous morality while only consuming Western propaganda.
And yes, groups like the Human Rights Activists of Iran are Western propagandists, funded by the CIA and US State Department through the NED, with headquarters in Fairfax, VA, about 15 miles from CIA HQ.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/revealed-the-cia-backed-think-tanks-fueling-the-iran-protests/290638/
Ah, the good old strawman. Demonize your opponent to try to get the “upper hand”.
I’m well aware how the US sanctions affect the population and what is its objective. I condemn them as much as you do. But you seem to be blind on one very important thing: how it affect the population VS how it affects the elites.
The elites of the regime lives good lives, barely affected by the sanctions (other than not being able to go to most westerns countries). Spending billions into missiles they spend without much result (so much that even a missed impact on Israel soil make the whole west headlines). To what gain? Meanwhile you got a population that tries to live, some just survive considering the little they got. I won’t say they are worst than the US at taking care of the general population well-being, but they sure aren’t much better.
You got in both cases powerful leaders doing every evils to stay in power, even knowingly helping their adversary in order to keep them breathing (Bibi and the Hamas), and keep the fear of the other alive.
All I wish for the Iranian people is a life free, without both mollahs and outsides diktats. You won’t get that from the mollah. I’d doubt you’ll get that from the US either, or any imperialist power (Russia, China). But if the Iranians people are as resilient as they were under the US sanctions and the mollah regime, I believe they can do it.
Literally the only way the Iranians were able to throw off the imperial yoke was to establish the theocracy. That’s the historical reality. The Iranians already went democratic and they got fucking owned by the imperialists. Why do we think it’s going to be different this time when the US just fucking bombed them less than 12 months ago?
The Iranian missile program is one the most efficient in the world. It is completely indigenous, not relying on foreign governments to keep their deterrence systems in place. Each piece of material produced in Iran is produced by Iranian workers, and can be up to 90% cheaper than equivalent munitions of their adversaries. The idea that missile production is why Iranians are in trouble is ridiculous. It’s literally one of the key reasons Israel and the US don’t feel confident enough to go for a full frontal assault on the country. The job of the government is national defense and Iran was doing a good job at that until last year when Israel dealt a devastating blow, and the only thing that stopped Israel going further were the Iranian’s missiles.
If you think Iran is helping Israel in order to create the political theater they need to control their people, you are lost in delusion.