• Dremor@lemmy.world
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      A screenshot can’t be called a proof in this age. Give an archived link from a trustworthy source. Beside, I don’t see any date on that screenshot, which is usually seen on tweets, which may mean it was either doctered (well, it was, at least to add the red line), or straight false.

      But let’s consider this as valid for a second. Israel and Iran are enemies, of course they have intelligence officers in their enemy population. That’s intelligence 101. The same is true the other way, there are probably multiple Iranian cells in Israel, the US, and most NATO countries. But to dismiss any unrest on that given fact is absurd. Sure Israel will capitalise on that because it is in their interest to see a change of regime in Iran, but they can’t trigger such uprising from just intelligence cells, or you’d see such protest about everywhere in the world.

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          Classic CIA I’d say. Wasn’t the first time. Probably won’t be the last (unfortunately).

          The kidnapping is a fact, and I personally condemn that act. On the other hand, considering his crackdown on the opposition, I don’t think he was democratically legitimate. I wish for the Venezuela people to be able to elect someone without being coerced.

          The genocide is too, and I wish our leaders were ready to tell the US to eat shit (I’m an European), but truth is we cannot yet. It will probably take a good decade, but with Donnie and his goons in the US, we are kinda motivated to do so lately.
          So yeah, the Hammas chosed the worst timing for their attack, and they fucked up their communication badly enough to make them easy target to Israel propaganda. In ant cases, they have to take their share of blame for what followed.

          So as you admit yourself having ne proof whatsoever except a vague feeling the CIA may once again be on the move due to having done destabilization work more than 60 years ago, a possibly doctored tweet, and some casual logical fallacies.

          Where is the “trust me, bro” ?

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            OK, I respect your efforts to engage but you need to see the bigger picture here.

            Iran is seen by Zionists as the head of the snake, the strategic backstop for supporting Palestinian liberation and resisting israel hegemony in the region and since Obama it has been the subject of

            • JCPOA exit
            • “maximum pressure”. The most sanctioned nation on Earth
            • assassinations, sabotage
            • coordinated protest narratives
            • constant threat of military escalation, and of course
            • a decapitation strike by Israel last June

            Even before then Bush II labeled it part of the “axis of evil” and primed for regime change after Iraq.

            Look into Israeli and US policy papers like the Oded Plan (1982) the “Clean Break” (1996) and the Brookings Institute Paper “Which Path to Persia?” in 2009. These deal with the dismemberment of states in the Middle East along sectarian lines to strengthen Israel. The last one deals.explicitly with pathways to regime change.in Iran.

            If you dont understand the context you will only ever take these flashpoints at face value when they are being used to manufacture consent for wars of aggression.