FBS, which promotes an extreme version of free birth in which women abandon any form of prenatal care and give birth without doctors or midwives present, is estimated to have generated more than $13m in revenues since 2018. A recent Guardian investigation identified 48 cases of late-term stillbirths or neonatal deaths or other forms of serious harm involving mothers or birth attendants who appear to be linked to FBS.

(Yolande) Norris-Clark has not responded to repeated requests for comment about the Guardian’s investigation, which is told through The Birth Keepers podcast series. She has previously defended her partnership with Saldaya, saying FBS is “the most ethical kind of business you can run”. Critics of FBS, she has said, fail to understand the commitment to women taking “radical responsibility” for their births. And she has said it is unfair to hold her responsible for the choices of a mother who consumes her content.

Many of the women who follow Norris-Clark on social media, seeking advice in their pregnancies, are unaware of her more extreme views, which she sometimes revealed to FBS students. “I actually don’t believe that gravity is true,” she told FBS students in 2024, adding: “Maybe that just makes me crazy and that’s totally OK.” In another class, she told students they could cut a baby’s umbilical cord with an “old rusty fork”. “I don’t believe in germ theory,” she said, “I don’t believe in contagion,” adding: “But even if contagion were real … there would be a pretty much 0% chance of anything happening.”

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      Well in this specific case where people are choosing to have their children die in birth or via going unvaccinated I would say it’s pretty direct.

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          No, but nature doesn’t have political opinions either. These children dying because their parents can’t make smart decisions for their birth is the harsh reality of natural selection at work.

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      Humans have supplanted natural selection [with modern medicine]. Evolution will not fix this.

      It might still if you refuse to go to the doctor.

      Apart from that, the majority of evolution today happens through sexual selection: The potential partner that appears fitter is chosen and reproduces, it’s not necessary for the less-fit potential partner to die.