Once upon a time circa 2011-12, Ubuntu could pluck out the applications’ menu bar (the ‘File’/‘Edit’/‘View’/… thing) and display it at the top of the screen, like it’s done in MacOS. Brief searching shows that this was just a setting in Ubuntu’s system preferences, which doesn’t quite inform as to how it was done. But iirc this was before Ubuntu has gone Gnome 3, and thus wasn’t specific to GTK 3 — though the ‘Activities’ in the screenshot below suggests otherwise; and afaiu Cinnamon uses GTK 3 anyway. If I’m not mistaken, this feature has also appeared first in the Netbook Edition of Ubuntu.

Is there some way to have this feature again in Linux Mint, Cinnamon edition, in the year 2025? I’ve googled around for a bit, nothing comes up except lots of ‘how to move the bottom panel to the top’.

Random pic from the web to show this magical technology:

For anyone wondering why I would do such a thing: Fitts’s law tells us that the time to accurately move the cursor to an onscreen target is directly proportional to the distance to the target, and inversely proportional to the target’s size, namely in the same direction as the motion. Well, menu items being at the top of the screen makes them effectively infinite in size in the top-down direction, since the user can just jam the mouse all the way in the proximity of the desired item without a care to the vertical position of the cursor (assuming they come at the target mostly from below). I don’t really like using the mouse, or using the menus either — but when I do, I’d like to have a better experience.

Curiously, this is one glaring example of where Apple designers did their fundamental research, while those at Microsoft dropped the ball yet again: in Windows 9x (at the least), the taskbar buttons had a one-pixel gap from the bottom where mouse clicks didn’t work — which meant that a user moving the cursor with all their Fitts-dictated efficiency had to readjust again before clicking a button.

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    4 days ago

    I’ve forgotten to mention in the post: I browsed through the applets, but there isn’t one that would seem to recreate this feature. Unless I missed something.

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        4 days ago

        Yeah, I’ve heard that KDE might’ve overtaken Gnome in usability in recent years, but I’m still traumatized by my brief experience with it in the 2000s, when it was blatantly copying Windows, but with even more wandering through the dialogs and the menus. It was really fucking bad. Meanwhile Gnome 2 was unabashedly copying MacOS with all its ease of use, so it was kind of a gateway drug.

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          Definitely give KDE a go again. I was in the same boat as you in the 2000s, KDE was horrific and I refused to touch it with a ten foot pole until about two years ago. It’s my DE of choice now on devices that can handle it (I’ve got some dinosaurs). Now GNOME 3 checks that hatred box.

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          As I said, I’m new to Linux in general, and from my experience on Ubuntu, it’s been fantastic. I think whatever bad juju kde had back in the day is gone, and it’s light years ahead anything you can get from windows, as far as customization goes.