The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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    They already have invaded Europe. For the second time in the last decade.

    Fyi, Ukraine is in Europe.

    Fuck USA for abandoning it’s allies, the whole world is realising they cannot be trusted.

    The EU is doing the right thing by arming up.

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      They have invaded Ukraine, a country that is not in NATO nor in the EU, this article is talking about a war with all the European member states of NATO. I think my wording was clear.

      And considering rearmament, do you know what the security dilemma is, and what that means for the security of everyone in Europe?

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        Ukraine is still in Europe no matter how you spin it. Russia has also invaded NATO aligned airspace, cut infrastructure lines in the ocean, likely blew up a critical fuel pipeline, continues aggressive cyber warfare, bombed a railway in Poland, and pays for bots and misinformation campaigns and supports right wing fascism in the US and EU. They rattle their nuclear sabre constantly and have also had illegal incursions across borders like Finland… Tell us again how Russia isn’t a nascent threat to all Europeans after invading a sovereign country twice, downing passenger jets and sending proxy ships for covert unconventional warfare? The EU is under attack already and at least Poland is awake to it.

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            Not accoridng to them. They rightfully consider themselves Euroasian, and a growing number of Europeans see them that way too.

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              So, it’s still in Europe. What’s your point, other then division? Stop with this us/them shit, stop supporting warmongering narratives. Geography is not interested in this bullshit and you shouldn’t be, either.

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                Russia is currently attacking a sovereign state, murdering civilians and abducting children. Defense against that is hardly warmongering. Europe did not push for it to be us/them, it was Russians who made themselves the morally corrupt ‘them’ by killing people in Europe.

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                  Europe is not going to defend a sovereign state. Europe is not defending itself as you understand it. Europe consistently pushes for us/them.

                  it was Russians who made themselves the morally corrupt ‘them’ by killing people in Europe.

                  Geopolitics is not about morals. But I’m sure Rheinmetall is happy to hear your perspective.

                  Are we the baddies?

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                    All countries are the baddies from some perspective. Russia causing millions of deaths in a war of aggression puts it way up there. Europe will do what it needs to do to defend itself. And supporting Ukraine is the most efficient way to do that right now. As well as being the morally correct thing to do. Russians can go fuck themselves as their economy slowly implodes - they deserve it.