This is a webforum, not a nationstate, or a union, or even a book club.
It’s a society. It is governed. Right?
Do you pay taxes/bills for the forum? The owner gets to decide how it’s ruled. It’s not a public space
That doesn’t explain why though.
Elsewhere in this thread it has been offered that we do dictatorship because democracy won’t work here, because we can’t ensure one-vote-per-member, because people can have multiple accounts.
Because the owner decides this is how it works. If you want it to work any other way, you can spin up your own, and that process IS like democracy where people vote with their engagement on which site to visit.
That explains how (through force) not why.
Having your choice of dictatorship is not like democracy. Democracy is a method for creating policy. That’s quite different.
Because I could just vote with my 100 accounts on your ban.
You know, it would be easier if you would just state your argument instead of being all cryptic and weird.
So yr saying that the fact that a person can have multiple accounts renders democracy nonworking? And that’s why we don’t do democracy?
Its much harder to fake votes in real life. On a forum where the members vote I can potentially be as many members as I want. So it doesnt hold up unless you are invading user privacy (bad) and even then its not a good solution as I can just use my mom’s ID to make another sock puppet.
I do have to say that Lemmy by design is pretty anti user privacy. Anyone with an instance can view your post history even if deleted, your vote history, and your IP address.
Lemmy is designed for public discourse and data availability. If you want your thoughts to be private, don’t post here.
If you want privacy, you should use Matrix groups. But even in Matrix, you’re at the mercy of the host admin.
How might one do democracy then? I mean, is there a way? Can this engineering riddle be solved?
So, yes. We don’t do democracy because we can’t do proper voting. Because we can’t ensure one vote per member.
But if we could, would we?
Consider reddit. They could ensure that. Right? But they don’t do democracy. So that’s interesting.
Eh, it’s pretty straight forward
And yet you didn’t answer the question.
You clearly don’t know what “straightforward” means.
Jfc, I’m not the original person who started this thread.
But if you’re a child who needs it broken down:
- forums such as lemmy allow users to create multiple accounts
- each account a person has access to is a potential vote
- casual honest users will then likely just have one vote
- whereas terminally online jerkoffs like you sound like will have a dozen or more accounts and votes
- therefore, it’s not a good system for enforcing any kind of egalitarianism.
You might as well ask why we need login accounts at all. If you want to see what happens with such systems, you need only look at 4chan.
Now, fuck off I’m done with this thread
Yes, we are already discussing the multiple accounts thing. And much more efficiently than you.
Good fora operate as a republic: Those in power are elevated by the people, but a small dedicated group still makes the decisions.
Bad fora sometimes operate as under feudalism: One senior mod with ultimate power and her lackeys and yes-men with lesser power.
But the fediverse operates more like a gardening club: Someone cultivates a plot, sometimes with helpers, and allows passerby to enjoy. Sometimes they bar a person from entry, but if that happens to you, or you just don’t like the garden, there’s another garden just around the corner.
Fediverse is a collection of dictatorships. The option to leave a dictatorship, or go to another dictatorship, doesn’t make it less dictatorshippy.
Very few dictstorships allow you to leave at will. That ability to Build up your own Community on equal terms is quite un-dictatorial.
Nontheless. Policy is dictated. That is the long and short of it.
Ah, the forum equivalent of vaguebooking.
I don’t understand what yr talking about.
