Uproar as EU Parliament declines to hold minute of silence for Charlie Kirk – POLITICO
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Right-wing lawmakers pushed for a tribute to the U.S. conservative influencer who was shot dead.

European Parliament President Roberta Metsola on Thursday rejected a bid by right-wing factions to hold a minute of silence for slain U.S. conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

The initiative was first proposed by Charlie Weimers, an MEP from the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR), as a symbolic measure “to declare that our right to freedom of speech cannot be extinguished,” according to an email chain with dozens of MEPs that was seen by POLITICO.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    64·
    2 days ago

    No, EU has freedom of expression…

    Which is why it’s “not like in the US” because it’s a different thing…

    We can tell that, because the fucking words are different.

    https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/11-freedom-expression-and-information

    The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."

    Kirk advocated for violence constantly, most of what he said wouldn’t have been legal in Europe

    • Klear@quokk.auEnglish
      41·
      2 days ago

      You’re conflating the philosophical concept of freedom of speech with the first amendment of USA’s constitution.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        He said they have “freedom of speech”.

        I pointed out they have “freedom of expression” and that the vast amount of shit Kirk said doesn’t meet the more rigid standards of the EU’s laws…

        And you think I’m conflating things?!

        I’m literally clarifying, the person conflating is the one using two legal terms from different countries interchangably.

        This isn’t a philosophical debate, it’s literally what all of these words mean…

        You could have at least accused me of being pedantic, at least that would have been using words correctly

        • Klear@quokk.auEnglish
          21·
          2 days ago

          Freedom of speech is not a legal term outside of USA. It’s a concept.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            2 days ago

            I’m sorry I can’t explain this in a way you’re capable of understanding, you will have to ask someone else for any further help with this or any other topic.