If you’ve been selfhosting conduit or conduwuit, you probabl are aware that the conduwuit project was discontinued a couple months back.

I’ve been holding out on updating my matrix homeserver until it becomes clear which fork(s) will survive long term.

I feel like I can’t put off updating for much longer now, plus the tuwunel nixpkg and -module were merged yesterday, so now the two most promising forks are both options for me.

Still, I’m unsure what route to take. Here’s my thoughts:

  • not going through another round of this in a couple of months from now would be great, so stability and long-term maintenance promises would be great
  • I assume incompatibility between the forks, if not now then very soon; this is a “pick an option, then stick with it and pray” situation
  • tuwunel apparently has a full-time paid dev working on it now, which is great; at the same time, that means features will follow the priorities of the (as of now unknown) sponsor of the project
  • it is, however, the officially endorsed successor
  • it also seems like few other people are actively involved, putting in question development practices, reviews, and what happens should the lead dev throw in the towel
  • lastly, while there’s been a lot of apparently rapid progress (with releases 1.0.0, 1.1.0, and 1.2.0 at quite a fast pace), the repo itself seems… empty? Few issues, few PRs, commentlessly-deleted issues
  • on the other hand, continuwuity seems more active by commit/contributors count, but is seemingly 100% volunteer work
  • they do seem to backport tuwunel changes and features, which is great!
  • they are not officially endorsed

In short: I fucking hate community drama. What fork did you go with? Is there anything else to consider? I just want an up-to-date matrix homeserver, and not to have to tell my users “sorry, starting from scratch because we picked the wrong fork…”

  • Mora@pawb.social
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    21 hours ago

    No better alternatives around though if you want to own your data, have proper multi-client support, and at least the option to federate.

    What about XMPP? What can Matrix do, that XMPP cant?

    • smiletolerantly@awful.systemsOP
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      21 hours ago

      Hm, fair enough, I actually have very little experience with XMPP. (Only through prosody, which I personally am on a war footing with.) From a cursory glance, I also couldn’t find an Android lient I’d really want to use, but of course that is subjective.

      In any case: I have a matrix server up and running, and it has been a pain to get friends and family on there; I do not want to do all of that again with a new protocol/clients. As long as it’s sustainable, I want to stay with the same server installation, and that means choosing a conduwuit for me.