EDIT: Kidnapping. The word you’re ignoring in the title is kidnapping.
Y’all are delusional trying to make 'kidnapping" a thing 🤣
What would you call intercepting someone in international waters and taking them back to your country without their consent? If Somali pirates did that you’d have no qualms using the word ‘kidnapped’.
It’s a blockade for a war zone. Standard practice for centuries, unless they just shoot you which was the previous option for most of humanity.
Now let’s get pedantic and have someone screech that Israel doesn’t recognize Palestine and it’s not a war so no blockade 🙄
The blockade is illegal and israel didn’t do it job to allow enough food and aid to enter which is an obligation. They are even shooting people seeking aid
They was jailed for navigating on internal water. It is illegal therefore it’s abduction
It’s not kidnapping if Israel does it apparently 🤨
It’s only sparkling detention
Yeah it’s real typical for kidnappings to be publicly known, announced in advance and then the victim safetly returned promptly, entirely unharmed. Im sure you can fram it as a kidnapping with some backflips, but you just look like a whiny child. She was captured and held unlawfully sure, but if it was actually for humanitarian aid and not self publicity, i might have some sympathy.
Israel does not feel a need to hide their crimes because they believe any action they take is righteous because they are doing it and any action their enemies take is evil because they are doing it
Becuase thy know the whole world won’t do anything
She was kidnapped then released while other are still in jail for doing nothing illegal
Good. They’re interfering in things they hardly understand.
They understand everything about israel 57 years of occupation
When the UN doesn’t stop the Israeli’s from declaring it a conflict zone. It’s technically not kidnapping. Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
No. They never entered anywhere Israel is legally allowed to exclude even in war It being full of aid and verifiable non combatants.
It’s kidnapping.
Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Your example is also kidnapping but even excluding that bit of nuance the key word is “in” they never entered territorial waters and thus were never “in” Israel or Palestine. Israel can declare 1500mi of the coast of Somalia an exclusion zone then kidnap people there and that would make just as much sense in a legal view.
Gaza is under a declared blockade, Maritime Law (the oldest of international law) allows detaining any ship bound for a blockaded port. It’s really cut and dry, they very publicly declared they were bound for a blockaded port. It’s not like Israel boarded a ship that just happened to be in the area, these freedom flotilla yahoos very publicly declared they were bound for Gaza, which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.
International law is an agreement between nations and doesn’t actually restrict nations from doing things that will hurt your feelings. You’re going down the sovcit path when you pretend international law is whatever you want it to be.
It’s not like Israel boarded a ship that just happened to be in the area,
That’s exactly what happened, blockade borders have to be announced and ships have to be allowed time to leave the area. Israel left their blockade and kidnapped people aboard a ship they did not allow to leave an area they weren’t in.
these freedom flotilla yahoos very publicly declared they were bound for Gaza, which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.
Once they breach the blockade yes arguably though with only aid that gets more complex. Essentially aid entry is allowed so long as you agree to security arrangements that are both reasonable and lawful. That could mean Israel could board and search, or doesn’t mean they can blockade all aid to starve a population which is specifically and in multiple very very illegal.
https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/blockade
Their sources section is awash with good relevant information and specifically findings on the last Israeli famous Israeli blockade and subsequent boarding (and death of iirc 9) which was found to be a legal blockade so long as the purpose was not starvation and aid could enter with security arrangements.
An operation involving naval and air forces by which a belligerent completely prevents movement by sea from or to a port or coast belonging to or occupied by an enemy belligerent. To be mandatory, that is, for third States to be obliged to respect it, the blockade must be effective. This means that it must be maintained by a force sufficient to prevent all access to the enemy coast.
So… according to the link you’ve provided Israel is actually required to board the ship or they can no longer prevent shipments of weapons coming from Iran?
Essentially aid entry is allowed so long as you agree to security arrangements that are both reasonable and lawful.
Has there been any indication these flotilla activists attempted to make such security arrangements with Israel?
They put it in quotes.
Funny how they are careful with words when they were literally on international water.
I feel like indie news is more important than ever, even if it means hand-cranked mimeos and passing them from person to person. Telecom can be cut at any time.
I honestly didn’t expect her to survive this one. She made it publicly known what she was doing so Israel couldn’t say it was a normal bombing of transport ships. But I figured they would use her as an example and destroy the ship.
One person on board with her is a European Union member of parliament from France. That provides a lot more protection than Greta’s reputation can.
Uncommonly fast for Israel.
They did it for PR. The other who refused to sign paper that will make them look like they entered israel legally are still abducted in jail
And Palestine is now saved, THANKS GRETA!
The fuck have you done?
Did she ever accomplish anything other than going to places getting arrested and changing absolutely nothing?
What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.
What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.
Yes, she did. She provided mutual aid. She might not have saved the entire world, but no one ever does. She helped a few, and that is more than anyone could say about you.
She helped a few, and that is more than anyone could say about you.
I donate to unicef so I guess I did the same as her without the free trips and celebrity status, where is my Nobel?
You are lying about donating to unicef
Raising awerness . Many protests was organized after that
You have no rights to that name. The eight doctor would never spew drivvel like that.
Adalah, an Israel-based non-governmental legal organization that is representing some of the activists, said that those who remain are being held in Givon Prison in Ramleh, central Israel.
So grab the passengers of a boat in international wares and jail them in Israel. 😒
In a statement to CNN, Israel said that it “is preventing the entry of all vessels into the Gaza Strip, in accordance with international law.”
Is there a charitable interpretation that could make this statement true?
Is there a charitable interpretation that could make this statement true?
Since Gaza is an open air prison under the control of Israel and not recognized as an independent state we can blockade it all we want.
Best I got.
Really hard to justify genocide.
Palestine is not a recognized country in most of the western world, which in itself is a travesty, but you can probably infer a lot of bs from that.
Like claiming a certain religious group has no human rights bc they’re not recognized as humans.
Palestine is not a recognized country in most of the western world, which in itself is a travesty, but you can probably infer a lot of bs from that.
That’s not even true.
As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members. It has been a non-member observer state of the United Nations General Assembly since November 2012.
75% of the world recognizes Palestine as a sovereign state.
To be fair, they specified “western world”. If you look at the map of countries that recognize Palestine, it’s pretty glaring that a good chunk of Europe, Canada/US, and Australia/NZ don’t officially recognize it.
Why does it even matter if it’s the west or other countries. Foes western countries have more legitimacy?
They declared war, they are allowed to enct vlockades according to international law.
International law doesn’t permit the blockading of humanitarian aid. Israel was allowed to board and inspect the vessel, but not block it from entry.
Humanitarian aid is getting in through land borders into Gaza.
Gaza doesn’t have a port suitable for delivering large amounts of goods in the first place. Aid delivery has to go through the proper channels.
Don’t you mean the illegal channel controlled by thr occupying force
I hate that someone recorded this without her consent.
Wait… are we framing her as a kidnapped child or a POW? Gotta make sure everyone is on the same page when making propaganda about this.
She could do the funniest thing now and get on the next humanitarian boat back.
Edit: me do grammar poorly
She already said that she’d do just that. Let’s see how fast they’ll let her leave next time. If at all.
They will let her leave. Not letting her leave would be more of a problem for them and probably what she wants.
I dunno. If you can get away with murdering civilians, children, aid workers and journalists. Maybe you want to start testing if you can get away with murdering celebrities.
Nah. That’s when people care. They’ll put her in a golden prison and use her to look good after they free her.
One of the activist is a journalist who said thst they didn’t allow her to sleep. Rima hassan was threaatned to smash her face.
What an anemic headline. How did she become detained? By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters. CNN is a tool of the oligarchs.
By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters.
you might disagree with what’s happening but this was legal. Israel has a blockade there
It’s a really good example of how abuse and evil can often be legal while doing what’s right can often be illegal.
Intercepting a ship that intends to run a blockade in international waters is legal according to international law. The flotilla had stated its intention repeatedly and were warned several times before being intercepted and finally boarded.
That assumes the blockade is legal though? Has an international court that is recognized by the ship’s flag country declared the legality of the blockade?
I don’t know of a court ruling. The UN‘s Palmer Report declared it Legal.
However as with lots of things regarding international law, there are different opinions.
Icj in 2024 said it was illegal. They wasn’t even intercepted in gaza water. No matter how you look at it it was illegal.
I’m so happy she survived! They where smart enough to let her live!
Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?
Public attention from them and others is why she’s being gently handled. You should thank those who raised the alarm on her behalf, not Israel.
Shoehorni g reality to fit their believes it seems.
Right here. I would have never in a million years have imagined that they would just let her go. This is an extremely surprising turn of events.
Consider this: You might be misinformed about the whole situation.
Isreal has already shown that they’ll wipe out an entire population just because they don’t like their religion, one more murder would just be another day in the life for them.
What population was wiped out because of their religion?
The last one was attacked by drones. They was a chance. Great that it didn’t happen
