• EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    They’re called Macs, iPhones, and iPads.

    macOS has been UNIX certified since 2001. NeXTSTEP, what Mac OS X and macOS is based on, was UNIX certified from 1986-1997 or so until development stopped.

    iOS, iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS, CarPlay… they are all UNIX.

    UNIX workstations didn’t go away, they just got very pretty.

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    8 days ago

    I watched this happen in a research institution in the early 2000s. Scientists who had been heavy SGI, Sun, or HP customers realized that they could get a lot more bang for their buck with beige-box PCs running Linux (or occasionally FreeBSD). Aside from up-front costs, hardware upgrades and replacements were much cheaper and easier to get for PCs.

    The big Unix vendors did not help their reputation when they started selling Windows machines — which all of them except Sun did in that era. It became increasingly clear that commercial Unix for scientific computing no longer had a future.

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      8 days ago

      Well, that is not entierly accurate…

      Yes, Unix was paid, but companies didn’t switch to Linux, they switched to Windows.

      So the cost of Linux doesn’t have anything to do with this.

      The reason why Unix workstations died was that Windows became good enough and PCs we getting good enough.

      Windows PCs were cheaper than Unix workstations, and if they are good enough then there is no reason for a company to pick something else.

      Then we have the last nail in the coffin, Itanium.

      Itanium was supposed to be the future, Intel marketed it hard enough that companies that had previously developed their own CPUs decided to switch to Itanium and stopped developing their own CPUs.

      Then when Itanium proved to be a crap shoot, they had nowhere to go.

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        I didn’t mention Windows because I don’t remember any serious workstations using it. PCs did become good enough but it still wasn’t the professional workstation level. Though if we’re talking about computing in general, Windows has been the king ever since 95 or even 3.0.

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          8 days ago

          I worked in local government that used Unix workstations for GIS (Graphic Information Systems) - mapping of the local government’s property boundaries and many other layers. The DB was held on a DEC Alpha, and it was all very pricey, albeit very good at its job. ESRI ARCGIS, etc

          When the time came to replace, they moved it all to Windows. The workstations were beefed-up PCs running NT4.0 and the DB was on a server with NT 4.0 server. DEC was gone by then, absorbed into Compaq, Alphas were discontinued, and no-one wanted to migrate to SUN or HP.

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          7 days ago

          I worked on HP Unix systems, SGI Iris etc: Running CAD on then till around '96 by then the big CAD players had ported to Windows NT and everything got switched to a PC. Because by then PCs had caught up and were much cheaper than running the Unix software and hardware